The chat's arent all global. It's mostly zone.

Peeps in Bazaar 1 talks to and listens to Bazaar 1 chat

Haven 5 talks to and listens to Haven 5 chat.

The only exception of zone talk is when you address to your Guild, which is by /g. And when you actually use the global chat functions.

Also, if you're going to write a complaint, please learn how to spell. Or at least double check before posting it and making all the Grammar Nazis (including me, sadly) cry.

You stopped reading the whole thing because of a common misconception.

*slow clap to the forehead*

Zone: Speaks to everyone within your Haven Instance.
Trade: Speaks to everyone across all Haven Instances of the same language setting. 30 second 'cooldown period' after each use.

Each Chat type except normal chat can be 'turned off' by simply leaving the channel, otherwise players would get annoyed at the spammage of their chat logs.

Having a Global Chat would be useless because 1) People would have conversations over it, and fill people's chat history with unwanted messages i.e. they can't read anything because there's 20 other people speaking at the same time. 2) All normal players would turn it off, and it's become disused. Only people tuned into it would likely be newbs who don't know anything and ask questions they really should know the answers to already, or beggers, both of which would be probably be ignored anyway.

- I went around in Haven 1 town.

Yeah, just to, like, point out the fallacy in this statement... Haven 1 isn't automatically the most populated Haven. Everyone is sent to a specific Haven based on who they have in their Guild and their Friend List.

I'm just gonna put this idea out there because I think it might be a reasonable solution to Clockwork running.

Use your mist to do Arcade runs with friends, the you can use the CE you bought to grand FSC. You know, since it pays double what you pay for it considering no deaths?Also even if you die, a maximum of 2 revives still let's you profit.

Tell me why you're using mist now-OWAIT. You want a ton of cr...

I agree with the OP (to an extent). Many of his points are valid, and so far I've yet to see the solutions in game for the majority of what he's said.

I can understand a lot of your frustrations. In particular, I believe the community suffers greatly without the active Arcade, because everyone's isolated from one another. In all the time since the missions came out, I haven't had a single new friend that wasn't either already connected with a current friend or guildmate, or someone I actively sought out by shouting "Who needs mission help?!" in Haven. That's OK for me since I had a bunch of friends to start with and spare time to assist people, but for a little newbie, finding people to run with (especially older, more experienced players) is very difficult. I've heard the same observation from many of the newer players I've met and from all the RL friends I've introduced here since the missions dropped.

Despite all that, I still recommend Spiral Knights to many, many people, because the core experience (cruising through levels killing things) is still fun. If I know the person is going to be focused only on getting the best gear and making the most money, I'll steer them to something else, for exactly the reasons you describe. But if they're going to have fun with the weapon variety and the cute graphics and the interesting economy and the amazing music and the open-ended character development and everything else there is to be had here besides the funny money you can pretend to earn, I'll have them make an account, give them a hat and a few thousand crowns to start with, and we'll be on our way. A lot of girlfriends (excuse the stereotype) absolutely LOVE this game because it's accessible and cute and doesn't feel like the kind of "evil" MMO that will take their boyfriends' lives away, and use it as a way to bond over something they can both enjoy, which is beautiful.

@Shoebox, do yourself a favor and try the newbie mission. It's very showy and interesting, and feels a lot like Arkus' zone.

The original poster raises some good points, which get lost in his huge text. So many (not all) of the responders have not responded to these key points.
* Due to missions, the Arcade is nearly dead.
* Due to the highly restrictive nature of missions --- you need to do them almost in order, you need to join a party at the very start, most are not worth doing a second time --- the mission system is nearly dead too.

As a result, Spiral Knights feels a bit like a ghost town, with the social aspects looking really grim, even though the player base may be as large as ever (?). This is a real, structural problem in the game. Three Rings needs to listen to this kind of critique and work on bolstering the social aspects. And not with stuff like the Event Hub --- with real opportunities to play with friends, guildmates, and randoms, doing a play style that you can't do solo.

Sadly it's not a ghost town. It's just filled with beggars, AHers, and people that just runs up to your face and asks you to join their guild. Everyone else is probably busy with actually playing the game.

But seeing that less cluttered points, I agree. I mean, I dont have to waste all my mist energy just so i can run down to Snarby from the Arcade. I can just go through the missions and mow him there 3 times a day.

You made excellent points. I cannot say that I disagree with you in the least. I as well love SK, and have invested many dollars into this game, but I cannot tell my friends to play it. They try it, and then are gone within days.

WIth regards to locking parties, it has to do with another point you raised: it seems that many players are underaged/under maturity level. The last thing i want is to deal with an immature fool in an FSC/Clockworks run. I don't care if you come down and die one thousand deaths, more heat for me. Come down and be a beggar? Immature? That can ruin my gameplay.

As an anecdote to this, one of my officers brought a 5* into our guild yesterday. THe 5*'s first words were "who can give me CE to make bombs?". I explained the rules of no begging, and get to know us first. He says ok, and continues begging. This lasted half the day, until one of the officers removed him from teh guild. a full 5*, begging. From his speech, under 13.

To the OP, if you want fun people to run with, add me in game, we can run the clockworks together, open a party, find nubs in haven and help them out etc. This is something i also enjoy doing.

OHMAGASH

Original Poster PLEASE answer my questions!!!

Is Global Agenda still alive? As in, I can play it and get on my drobo and actually get into a mercenary match because there is enough people???

Have the devs in Global Agenda ever updated the game or did they just quit and give up on it???

I would like to know these things, however, I will be finishing downloading the game (since I uninstalled it) and hopefully remember my account name on it xD

I'm always fascinated by threads like this: the cognitive dissonance of "I love this game, but wouldn't recommend it to others." Kind of like, "I hate this game; this game is doomed to fail" (while still continuing to play, collect promo items, etc.)--not the OP's assertion, just another example.
I do think there are valid points raised on both sides of this argument (particularly the structure of the mission system being at odds with the social experience of the game, and specifically for starting players/players without an active group of friends or guild), but they're points that have been reiterated over and over again in many previous threads, both in general discussion and suggestions. In the end, if you like the game and community, you stay, if you don't, you go--and I personally don't see the point of arguing most of the points in-between, and especially in threads with broad, inflammatory titles like "I cannot recommend this game in good faith."
@OP: I hope that you find (or help to build) the kind of community that you're looking for, as that would go a long way toward fixing most of the complaints that you have. There are a lot of players (myself included) who would have quit playing a long time ago if they hadn't found a friendly/social guild or group of friends to run with. I think it's also important to note, however, that finding said group probably won't come out of declaring "the community blows," or simultaneously complaining that you can't find a PUG in the arcade or for a mission, and also that helping a friend just starting out is boring/sets you back as a player--you can't really have that one both ways.

[slight edit]: Perronius beat me to it.

First off, change the title of this thread to: I HATE THIS GAME NO ONE DOES ANYTHING. At the very least, tell us what you actually think.

I will admit that the arcade tab in the missions is detrimental to the community and that it should be removed. BUT! I will say that I actually have found several people while going through regular missions.

Now then, to address your post in order.

It's been beaten to death by a dead pencil, but there is no global chat.

In haven, I constantly see people swarming around the auction house. But almost every day, there are 3 or 4 knights hanging out in the garden to the left or around the fountain asking questions. And it brings me great satisfaction to answer them.

Usually, after going down 3 or 4 elevators in tier 2, another guy joins me. It's fun and it brings more rewards.

I've only had one instance where the other members of my party were bad enough jerks to not revive me.

My friends are at the same level as me, so I can't really address that.

I blasted through the Missions up until the 5-2 area with only 2 and then 3-star gear.

That's odd. Like I said, I can find parties all the time. Maybe you're getting on at the wrong time?

I've actually managed to work on the same level as a 5* during the Roarmulus twins mission. You can do it if I can.

The demo suits are not crap.

Binding needs to go, I will admit.

If I'm reading endgame correctly, then try to have some fun! Do fan-made challenges! Kill buddies by bumping lumbers into them!

I prefer Roarmulus Twins because of their puzzle nature. I can actually stand grinding if it brings fun with it.

No, a noob can't run for the sake of running, but he'd probably fail in the first place.

I'm F2P all the way

I find a lot of active players.

There's nothing you can do about underage players in a F2P game. Just look at TF2!

Blah.

I did a search for "Guild" and noticed it only came up once in your posts, OP, and it was referring to guild chat in another game.

Generally, it works like this:

Being in a guild is fun.
Being guildless is difficult to get a sense of community.

Anyway, everything you were complaining about (lack of advice between pros and noobs, getting ppl together to do runs, and general community chit chat) all occur in guild chat. A "global" chat would be annoying because different people talk about different things. At least you can leave a guild that has very different interests than you.

The reason there is no global chat is because the chat system for SK is horrendous. Do you notice how trade, zone, guild and local chat are all put together? Having idle zone chit chat can annoy a lot of other people, so they would be told to be quiet. You can change zones to get away, but it would be annoying if you had it follow you in global chat. Until they segregate the chats into a tabs and have a global chat you can jump into and out of, it won't happen.

You can have a pseudo guild by having a bunch of friends on a friend list you constantly do runs with. To get these people, when you make runs and talk (because the norm is to not chat and just hack), you can get along with some ppl and then go from there.

-Gear is supposed to be crafted.
-- ... and?
--- and it's not supposed to be dropped. Dropped gear isn't supposed to be your main gear source (or even secondary gear source). I'm playing regularly since April and have seen 5 drops so far (two 1*, two 2* and one Rock Jelly Helm).
---- if it's not supposed to drop, remove it entirely. What's the point of having so-so gear drop at such a low rate we can't even begin to calculate it?

Your chance of winning the lotto is also pretty low, let's just ban it (an example of how silly you sound).

It's an extra, you can't count with the drop but it's a nice surprise when it comes. Just because you hadn't been lucky yet don't try to spoil other people fun.

Tsu Glomps Eury. Glomp!

Wait, How did I get here?

I cannot recommend this game in good faith.

What does this even mean?
Okay, if you can't recommend the game, then don't. You aren't being ordered to do it and your moral and professional integrity are at stake here.

"And seriously? 4k unbind cost? I can't think of another RPG where I can't give my friend some rockin' gear without having to eat ramen noodles for 2 weeks afterwards."

Lol, I love what you said there.
You make some good points, but being gone for a few months and just coming back, you can't expect everything to be the same.

To be honest, asking for runs in zone chat or publicly at all is a major turnoff for many players. Rarely anyone understands or expects the person to be just looking for some fun in company. I haven't ran with random players for a very long time, and the same goes for many other players. With a long friends list and an active guild, you have all the company you need.

Like others have said, maybe you could give this game another chance and join an active guild. Playing Lockdown is a good place to start. And by the way, don't get discouraged by the auto-target flourish spammers. Once you know how to outmaneuver them, you'll be better than the average crowd. And then you'll begin to notice who actually is good at LD.

Best of luck!

"...stop kissing admin booties."

Not even if they get a Boo-Boo?

Posting on a thread solely to greet the admins is considered sucking up, if you want to know. And I'm pretty sure It's not just me who agrees on that.

I'm pretty sure it's just you.

@OP I honestly agree, this community is starting to take a turn for the worse. Way back when, where lockdown nooks roamed the Cradle (October 2011), one was able to join a party almost 100% of the time in any gate. You were rarely kicked, and people didn't mind what stuff you used, just as long as you contributed to the progress of the team through the level. People were newbies at lockdown, double swinging and using full combos everywhere, as well as using armor like skelly.

Fast forward 7 months.

Missions have taken over players' time, leaving the Arcade a desolate wasteland. Pros who spend inordinate amounts of money on thus game dominate lockdown, with clones of them with less skill filling the other spots. Every competent player there has a flourish. Bombers and Gunners are relatively rare to find. T1, T2, T3 all dominated by rich players with UVs: Not even T1 is safe. IMPOSSIBLE to join a T2 or T3 LD without seeing a skolver somewhere.

Point? People are becoming more separate and individual in this game, when it was supposed to be a social game. New players have an extremely hard time doing anything before running out of mist and crowns. It's like throwing a person who has never played before straight into a God of War game on God mode, or something like that.

Basically, new content needs to be added. New content = older players won't be bored; they will spend crowns, therefore buying CE and selling it to make more crowns -> Lower CE prices -> New players get better chance to level themselves, etc. New content could be added clockwork levels and clockwork monsters and clockwork bosses or minibosses exclusive to the clockworks to promote the social aspect of the game.

@Tersakoff Get your [heavens to Betsy] out of your mouth and quit being [a hindquarters] to everyone who suggests an idea you don't approve of.

"The Company will be deleted, insult anyone personally."

Well, with Eurydice's Spanish-German-French-Japanese-then-back-to-Englishish permission.

ur a butt

Very interesting statement. I agree with some of the things you said in there. As SK does not have an ending, I do hope it will come soon. (Yeah, right.) I joined this gamer almost exactly a year ago, and I'd say it veered off a little. It was a lot of fun. My favorite thing to do was make new friends while going on a run. Now you'd be lucky to find a party of two that you never met before.