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Small favor to ask from Developers {Very small and not a complaint on the price of CE or lack of benefits to old players}

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Wed, 06/06/2012 - 16:57
Lightyourfire's picture
Lightyourfire

Can you please put up a Flame Aura auction on the featured list that ends between 4:00pm and 10:00pm Eastern Standard Time. I have missed so many of these auctions due to classes and/or work, so I would like to ask this as a small favor. It doesn't need to be very soon that I'm asking this for, but simply some time in the near future. If you are reading this, thank you for your time.

:)

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 17:01
#1
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Favors

This forum is for suggestions, not personal requests.

Threads like this are why administrators do not often post in this forum. It makes people think they can do anything and get what they want.

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 17:27
#2
Lightyourfire's picture
Lightyourfire
@Luguiru

Where could I ask this then?

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 18:02
#3
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Derp

To be honest, nowhere; Three Rings does not want to cater to personal requests and the community sees such requests as selfish. Waiting for the accessory to be available normally is the best way to find it without stepping on any toes.

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 18:26
#4
Silloe
I think the suggestion just

I think the suggestion just needs to be changed from specific to a generalization.

A lot of featured items seem to go on at scheduled times - though I could be entirely wrong about that, but seeing the love puppy and trojan disguises make me confident of it though.

Asking for a randomization of those schedules or to implement multiple schedules based upon major Zones (NA, Euro, Asia/Aussie).

As things are now, the big ticket items go on rarely (which is good, I think), but as such will generally cater to a particular time zone.

You on the other hand Luguiru offer nothing to the table. You're the one who should cease posting.

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 18:56
#5
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Cut that out

This suggestion proposes Three Rings sets up an auction for one person for only six hours, when the auction for that sort of item lasts two days to allow bids to build up and therefore causing a crown sink to make CE less expensive, because that one person has activities to do outside the game; activities which seem to take up fourty-eight hours without any time to sit down to play the game.

To have the "rare" featured auction accessories available more often would mean they would have less value because there are more available. If these featured auctions were separated to occur for each time zone then there would be more chances to get whatever featured auction the individual seeks.

"You on the other hand Luguiru offer nothing to the table. You're the one who should cease posting."

Your trolling is disappointing at best.

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 20:07
#6
Silloe
If the best you can do is thinly veiled ad hominem...

Just for Luguiru
***************

You haven't added anything. Again.

Your Post Summary: Recap of OP(useless), explanation of auctioning(useless), crown sinks(useless), CE market (useless), complaining about OP (useless), supply and demand (useless), accusation of trolling(useless), and a picture of David Silverman, because apparently you're unable to articulate yourself with words and need a meme to speak for you.

If there's anything in your last post I should care about, please tell me. You had some bold text, so I presume that's what's most important to you.

So, allow me to address that.

I wasn't suggesting that Lightyourfire's request be implemented as he specified. I was suggesting an alternative method whereby all players could benefit, and the OPs request might be able to come true. I reiterate this because you don't seem to understand what helping people is, or how to be productive.

You have treated Lightyourfire poorly, calling them selfish, using titles like "Derp", attempting to guilt trip, suggesting he's a cause for Admin rarity, you've attempted to speak on behalf of OOO, and you addressed yourself as "the community". This is all very poor mannered.
***************

Back to content!

Lightyourfire has raised a good point. The end time of an auction is generally the only time when you'll actually have a chance to obtain the item you seek - people will often times hold out until the item is at 'very short' to put in a bid in an attempt to save money. This will favour a particular area - how might this be mitigated?

If for example 6 auras were put up for grabs in 24hr period with end times occurring every 4 hours, that would allow multiple time zones a very fair chance of obtaining one. Making a publicly available schedule so people can coordinate themselves around bidding would also be helpful.

You could maintain rarity by having the auctions occur 6 times less often, the cr sink would remain, and at worst CE prices would reach larger bubbles before the market pops. Though I remain skeptical regarding how much a few auras would effect the price of CE. Maybe 6 twilight auras...

Or, perhaps hot ticket items should last for much longer than 2 days. A week perhaps? This will ensure that all people with bidding capacity will have a chance, and that the last few bids at 'very short' will be less likely to decide a victor.

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 20:48
#7
Softhead's picture
Softhead
Welcome to Suggestions.

Also, Lug is pointing out several flaws. And he does suggest.

Get your facts right.

Personally, this shouts

"I can't get this due to LIFE, so how about I suggest a way for ME to get what I want."

So yes, either you go lockboxing my friend.

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 22:09
#8
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer

@Silloe

If you'd been on this forum for more than 2 hours, you'd know that's how Lug is.

He even called ME a derp, specifically and literally, when he saw me posting the first time, although I've been here longer than he has. Since June last year to be precise.

Second, he IS right. The post WAS generated selfishly, although HE said such request are VIEWED selfishly, if you bothered to read.

"You're the one who should cease posting."

Pray tell where Lug even IMPLIED the OP should cease posting.

"because apparently you're unable to articulate yourself with words and need a meme to speak for you."

Get with the program. It's a MEME, you're SUPPOSED to use it where relevant. I may as well speak body language and whine about everyone being incapable of expressing themselves, having to rely on a WORD to do it for them.

You've barely gotten here and you've ALREADY made a few enemies. Not a good start.

@OP: There isn't a place to ask the developers for such things, although you COULD post a request in the Bazaar and hope a player with a loose Flame Aura sees it.

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 22:31
#9
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
Lol. The Psycho+Lug combo is

Lol. The Psycho+Lug combo is devastating. Never thought about what would happen if anyone would oppose the both of them at the same time XP

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 22:55
#10
Silloe
Oh wise ones

Perhaps I'm wrong... Please enlighten me. What are the facts?

His suggestion is 'use the current system'. This is a place for suggestions - if it were already part of the system, we wouldn't be here. That is a poor advice, especially if the system is flawed.

And again, complaining about OP doesn't help anything.

I do like the idea of going lockboxing though. Lightyourfire must be pretty rich if he thinks he can win a bid on the aura, so just spend that cash on lockboxes, silver keys, and start gambling. Auction off the items you don't want, or try to trade for the aura if you get something good.

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 23:16
#11
Silloe
Devastating? Not really. :/

Looks like I rustled your jimmies there Psycho. That's a lot of caps - hope ya didn't hurt your keyboard.

I took action on Lugs abrasive posts. Even if Lightyourfire was wrong to post it originally, that doesn't mean the system he's talking about can't be improved. I thought that rather than treating OP like they were a bad person, I'd... y'know.. try to be productive.

Saying that's just the way Lug is, doesn't excuse him.

You make it sound like there's some sort of hierarchy around here. "You must be this tall to ride the forums." Heh. You're silly.

Where did he imply to stop posting? During this exchange:

Lightyourfire: Where could I ask this then?
Luguiru: To be honest, nowhere

The meme was a derisive image and an appeal to emotion. If you have a case, state it.

Enemies? I didn't know I had to pick sides. I thought that if I just tried to help people and did it with well thought out arguments it'd work out, but apparently I have to kiss butt, never mind having principles :3

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Back to content!

Since we're presuming OP is rich, trying trade chat might be a good way to find your aura as well. Maybe throw out a few requests in the Haven zone chat as well.

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 23:30
#12
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
Your 'uppityness' is not

Your 'uppityness' is not required.

His 'suggestion' was to add a new auction that would suit his 'needs', particularly the end time. Not a new feature, a new AUCTION. Like if I put another Wolver coat on the AH, except the discussed item is a Flame Aura.

The suggestions forum is a place to suggest and discuss new ideas for the GAME, not a place to ask for personal favours.

"And again, complaining about OP doesn't help anything."

I'm not complaining about the OP. If you're referring to me calling it selfish, it was only to back up Lug's initial point. He's already handled it, more or less, so me calling it selfish is merely stating a fact. If the OP took offense at my wording, I apologize.

"You on the other hand Luguiru offer nothing to the table. You're the one who should cease posting."
^
So you're saying this is helping anything? Lug stated what the OP is doing that he/she shouldn't be doing and why, OP asked a question, Lug answered.

You, on the other hand, twisted his posts and exaggerated them out of context. One example: "suggesting he's a cause for Admin rarity"

Lug did nothing of the sort. He said posts 'LIKE' these are why, because IF answered, WOULD be considered a way to ask admins for favours.

Also, Lug has been here long enough to judge the attitude of the Community in general, so making statements regarding general reception is allowed.

"don't seem to understand what helping people is, or how to be productive."

If I decided to post a thread on making mountable firewoks that would allow us to fly into space, you'd expect people to be PRODUCTIVE on that idea? Granted, the idea is exaggerated, but my point remains. Lug is under no obligation to remain wholly positive on any thread. All posters are allowed to disapprove of any thread, although it is HIGHLY PREFERRED that rage and hate be kept out of it.

Something you somewhat failed to do.

~The-supposed-wise-one

EDIT:

"Where did he imply to stop posting? During this exchange:

Lightyourfire: Where could I ask this then?
Luguiru: To be honest, nowhere"

How you read that as telling him to quit posting I have no idea. That is clearly Lug telling him that there is nowhere he can ask OOO to put up an auction, NOT telling him to stop posting.

"Saying that's just the way Lug is, doesn't excuse him."

I never said you had to excuse him. I'm saying you have to deal with it. Asukalan is a well-known rager on these forums, but he's more or less been accepted as that. We either ignore him or tell him his rage is not required.

"You must be this tall to ride the forums."

You do actually. It's called the 13+ age requirement of SK.

"You make it sound like there's some sort of hierarchy around here."

Unofficially, there is a vague sort. New posters tend to post any stray thought that comes to mind. Veteran posters can be more or less trusted to have thought out an idea when they posted it. Otherwise, things proceed normally.

"That's a lot of caps - hope ya didn't hurt your keyboard."

My keyboard is fine. I was just too lazy to type the formatting brackets over and over again.

"The meme was a derisive image and an appeal to emotion. If you have a case, state it."

You can't be serious. It's a MEME. In case you didn't notice, this is the INTERNET. I could post a gif of a clapping pony for all anyone would care. Something like this to be specific. In any case, it was in response to your post, which started the whole thing.

"but apparently I have to kiss butt"

Do what you feel you have to, although I fail to see where I implied that being a rule here, and to whom.

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 23:59
#13
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Double combination

The subjects for my posts are almost always a random noise, phrase, or silly nonsense which rolled out of my eyes for no significant reason other than to take up the space instead of letting the forum do it for me. It gives people something to look at and think "what is that and why is it there". You got me. I did start around early last June. At least that is what my Steam says from when I linked my accounts. Reading? In a forum? Absurd. Ignoring everyone and rolling around on the floor is how things get done. I would give a whale of an analysis on a more significant subject but I ran out of them in captivity. This is my next target to harpoon.

Am I done here? Refresh. More stuff? Okay.

There is no noble system, hierarchy, or comparison by the biggest hat. The problem is not with the individual, it is with what they are doing; response based on action. If I came up to you one day and slapped you with a duck it is only sensible for you to respond. I question who let me out of this box with a duck to begin with, but that is irrelevant to the scenario; normally they hear the bells on my muzzle before I can get out of the facility. The lights are always on around here and I can hear people screaming through the solid steel doors. Home sweet home.

"Where can I ask to get what I want for personal gain?"
"There is no place to put that because Three Rings would completely ignore you and the community* would not like it."

* The community refers to everyone accumulatively, though mostly veterans; people who know what they are doing, are competent in what they do, and know not to urinate on each other. That is disgusting. We have facilities around here for a r- never mind, use the fountain. No one will notice.

I should not have to explain the meme. Psycho can handle that for me above.

Since you seem to prefer the "side of the fence" social tactic, you have two options: people who like to harass each other and soil their diapers for no real reason, and the tea party next door. I will be the one rolling around in mud. They never let me play in mud in my room. Apparently it makes me cannibalistic, even though I only bit fingers off the staff three times. They kept trying to poke me in my sleep.

To address previous and implied claims:

No, I am not nor pretend to be an administrator. I have taken it upon myself as a "civilian" in our community to go through what the real administrators are most likely going through to point out ones with merit and slap proposals which are wasting time. Administrators may spend less time going through everything and have more time to work on implementation. Like an unpaid secretary. All I need is a weird accent and giant glasses. To add being female here would be discriminatory so I will not. To add two and two equals four.

No, I am not mistreating anyone here. I can easily be far more malevolent to another user if I wanted to, but that would be counterproductive. Like smashing my face on this cushioned wall. If I had 38% more force I might be able to dent the wall underneath the pillowing, but I always end up drowsy after the sound of a short spritz when I attempt to do so. And then the staff try to poke me and I bite their fingers off and spit them in their faces.

No, administrators do not normally appear around here regardless; though they were slightly more active in the distant past. This may be due to the same responses people direct toward my responses, twisting words and changing their intent; people do it with our politicians, especially their own opponents.

No, I am not going to stop posting because someone whines about it. Whining is never rewarded. Juggling flaming chainsaws while riding a unicycle and singing the national anthem backwards is simply amazing. Doing it underwater is breaking the rules.

Now you gave Psycho a title-thing to throw at people. All I have are these detached fingers. At least now I can count over ten with my hands. Wait, I have toes. Except they put boots on me since that time I squished the face of that one guy with my foot. His nose will never be the same shape again.

Good times.

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 00:12
#14
Tsubasa-No-Me's picture
Tsubasa-No-Me
AAAhahaaAAaaaaa....

Here's some advice from an apparent hipster...

Don't get offended at everything that is said, you only set yourself on a high branch for others to take pot-shots at...

Generally, Take things as they are said... If you don't understand what the heck is wrong, ask questions until you do.

DON'T Pick the "Hipster" Weapons, they only make each exchange take longer.

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 00:13
#15
Silloe
Time is money

Well, that was a long post, and I read it all thoughtfully and carefully. Thank you for your time.

However I didn't find any of it to be compelling, in fact in many places just ironic.

Lug should be lucky to have a person like you who will defend him to the bitter end.

Otherwise, this particular suggestion thread is over. I have nothing else to add.

If you'd like me to pick your post apart, I'd be happy too, but will have to charge a 1k CE counselling fee. You can posture your vast swathes of wealth to have me lecture you.

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 00:21
#16
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Fodder

This is my last response to Silloe in neutrality.

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 00:31
#17
Silloe
Your post was well written

Your post was well written and creative, Lug!

Because you're potentially a girl, and my neckbeard / whiteknight senses are tingling, I'm willing to offer you 999 of Psycho's CE.

Though, you're right, in this light perhaps we've fallen one of the Internet's many traps. I felt the tone you wrote in previously was harsh, and so attempted to defend OP.

But, now through our blood, sweat, tears, and Psycho's CE, we've bonded.

Edit: Sanic was beautiful. I am considering watching it through a 2nd time, but perhaps I'll save that glorious moment for a precious moment with my first born.

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 00:29
#18
Tsubasa-No-Me's picture
Tsubasa-No-Me
-.(\

Isn't this just a way for you to gain CE?

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 00:39
#19
Silloe
Yes, and a well earned 1 CE

Yes, and a well earned 1 CE it is.

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 00:50
#20
Theraptorjesus
why

i actualy enjoyed reading that all...

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 01:09
#21
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer

"If you'd like me to pick your post apart, I'd be happy too, but will have to charge a 1k CE counselling fee. You can posture your vast swathes of wealth to have me lecture you."

1) I could say the same thing about you.
2) I never said I was rich.

"Lug should be lucky to have a person like you who will defend him to the bitter end."

I'd do the same for anyone else in a similar position. Have done so for the Jempire (guild) and will do again, conditions permitting.

"However I didn't find any of it to be compelling, in fact in many places just ironic."

Your lack of a structured response makes this argument invalid.

"Though, you're right, in this light perhaps we've fallen one of the Internet's many traps. I felt the tone you wrote in previously was harsh, and so attempted to defend OP."

At least you managed to get SOMETHING right.

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 01:19
#22
Silloe
Keep on Truckin!

You're a credit to these forums!

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 01:21
#23
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer

So I've been told. I've yet to fully believe it.

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 01:52
#24
Silloe
A man of comprimise!

I'm willing to haggle the price on my services, of course... Lug would receive less.

Perhaps we could work out some sort of economy rate?

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 01:58
#25
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer

No.

I don't do many player-to-player deals, less so over a service I am likely not to use.

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 04:10
#26
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

You want an accessory up?

You go through Rommil.

...And I'd ask in General. This is the right place to ask, but you'll have more luck asking in General. (Yes, General is a place)

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 04:29
#27
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer

I'd have thought Bazaar would be a better place to look, else contact Romz ingame.

Thu, 06/07/2012 - 09:20
#28
Serell's picture
Serell
*noms on waffles*

This is hillarious.
I need to come back to the suggestions more often.

Sat, 06/09/2012 - 10:54
#29
Lightyourfire's picture
Lightyourfire
Wow

I completely forgot about this post and just came back to move it to the graveyard, I think I'll let this last a bit longer :D

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