Spiral Knights - Gunner trinket question

Gunner trinket question

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Fri, 06/15/2012 - 22:40

Thich

Alright guys, need a bit of advice.

Let's say I have this loadout:

Helm: Pefect Mask of Seerus (CTR Medium, ASI Low)
Shadowsun Slicker (Damage Medium)
Trinket 1 (Gun Damage Medium)

For Trinket 2, what is preferred: CTR Medium, or ASI Medium?

I was thinking ASI since the mask already provides a CTR bonus, but is CTR that much better than ASI, that it might be worth it to get CTR Max?

And yes, I know that the Swiftstrike Buckler provides ASI, and while I can use it effectively most of the time, better safe than sorry is my thinking, and I'd rather have a 5 star shield in those tight situations.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 23:10

Dukeplatypus

Either get a Trueshot, learn

Either get a Trueshot, learn to use Swiftstrike more efficiently, or get a Penta. You already have CTR VH with Seerus, there are few guns where you'd want more than that. Damage is always the best bonus for a gun, so focus on maxxing that out first. Worst comes to worst you can always use UVs for CTR and ASI.

Fri, 06/15/2012 - 23:12

Metagenic

Hmm

Your current set gives you CTR very high, ASI low, and DMG very high. Put on a Swiftstrike and a CTR trinket and you get CTR maximum, ASI very high, and DMG very high.

For guns, CTR vs ASI is very subjective to the weapons you use. If you mainly use Alchemers or Autoguns, then CTR is the better choice. If you mainly use Antiguas or the Callahan, then ASI is preferred.

Note: Swiftstrike might have terrible protection but if you're a gunner then most of the time you won't need it.

Sat, 06/16/2012 - 16:11

The-Rawrcake

Purrfect Katnip

Purrfect Katnip Pouch

.-.

Anyways, assuming you are using Blitz needle and gearing towards Vanaduke (the boss fight itself) since you didn't give us A. Your guns or B. What you are gearing for:

if you are dead set on either getting CTR or ASI (damage bonus is also pretty nice since you haven't maxed it out)

Then I would probably say it depends if you have someone shivering or not. ASI will help you stay safe if you solo Blitz a lot, it might be one of those stats which is simply a preference and not a math problem.

ASI vs. CTR with Blitz charges and which gives more DPS if you have a shiverer.

Go the the ATH, and see how many charges per minute you can get off with A. the CTR trinket equipped, and B. the ASI trinket equipped. Issue with that? You need both to do so, lol -.- only then could you do the math and find out the true answer.

I always hated math.

Sat, 06/16/2012 - 20:16

Thich

My most used guns are Nova

My most used guns are Nova Driver, Volt Driver, Blitz Needle, and Sentenza.

Sat, 06/16/2012 - 20:44

Krysophylax

With those guns, if you're

With those guns, if you're not looking to max out damage, then go with CTR (assuming you'll be using swiftstrike, but if not then ASI)

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 19:56

Spectrumized

Elite Trueshot Module

You don't need max everything to start farming T3, and you can start working on getting ASI VH and CTR med. This will allow you to ultimately get max everything. Trying to get the same results UVing for damage bonuses will be extremely costly and inefficient. If for some reason you want ASI or CTR, then go with CTR. Neither will be used very much outside of Vanaduke with a Blitz Needle (Where DMG would be nearly just as good anyways), but the CTR difference is bigger.

Tue, 06/19/2012 - 20:13

Traevelliath

I'd go for VH on Damage and CTR at most. Down the road you can start fiddling with a Swiftstrike Buckler for all the ASI you really need,

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:26

Melizande

CTR VH?

Hey guys. Sorry if I'm a complete novice here. But how do you get CTR VH from the Seerus mask?

Wouldn't medium + low (from the guns) only = high?

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:56

Aureate

Processing Thoughts of You Always

@Melizande:
Every weapon automatically gets a CTR Low bonus at heat level 5, and a CTR Med bonus at heat level 10 (complete).
So, without additional UVs or trinkets on the guns, you would have a total of CTR Very High.

And I would personally get damage trinkies and a Swiftstrike with that setup. Damage should be maxed.
You can always decide to get guns with ASI or CTR UVs later.

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 09:11

#10

Mohandar

Dual alchemers ftw

Dual alchemers with vhigh-max damage and ASI are pretty devastating in PvE and PvP. Umbra/Storm has become my loadout of choice in the RJP, though I might make a Magma shortly and sub that in. It is especially effective because you can put up a steady stream of damage on multiple enemies by kiting well. I feel like the rapid-fire switch shot deals more damage than repeatedly charging, but maybe it's subjective. It certainly is more exciting, imo.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:32

#11

Melizande

Followup question:

Is there an advantage to using Shadowsun Slicker with the Seerus Mask and one of each the Damage/Speed trinkets

VERSUS

Nameless Pancho with double damage trinkets? Both have the same ASI outcome, but one would capitalize on elemental resistance versus splitting with shadow.

Thu, 06/28/2012 - 11:43

#12

Yukarie

Assuming you don't care about

Assuming you don't care about the CTR, the majority of enemies in FSC deal shadow damage, whereas the fire traps and vanaduke himself deal elemental. Thus, it's not a terrible idea to get both types of defense, though not mandatory, obviously. Also that having one each of damage and speed trinkets allows for a little more mix/match when needed, if it ever gets to that point.

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