Spiral Knights - Two things I don't like about this game

Two things I don't like about this game

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Thu, 06/21/2012 - 12:45

Mentlegen

The first thing is the balance. Seriously, there are so many items that are not worth using because other items are clearly better (cobalt and chaos sets, troika, spur, iron slug, some bombs, you know what i mean). I understand it's hard to balance everything in the game, but you can at least try to make some items more appealing to people.

The second thing I don't like is UVs. I think it would be cool if they provided slight bonuses, but when the UVs are giant, they make the weapon completely different. But the worst thing about them is the only way of getting them is by luck. There is that gremlin guy that can get you UVs for money, but again, whether you get a good one or not is decided only by your luck.

I know UVs aren't going to be changed because that would upset people that got them, I would be upset too, I just want to know if some people agree with me. Thanks.

Also, Lockdown is broken as hell, so I guess that's three.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 12:49

Thefirstgamer

Lockdown's always broken as hell.

If it's not the sheer UVs people use, it's the fact classes are horribly unbalanced.

As far as gear, the Cobalt stuff was the first gear to ever be put in the game, and it stands today as the most skill reliant and original gear of all time.

Weapons, it all depends on what you like.

UVs, the RNG hates nearly everyone except the rich people.

So I do agree with you.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 12:54

Sgtbrown

Do NOT say the Callahan is useless.

The Callahan is awesome. It's better than the Blitz against wolvers, devilites (over a longer, safer range), and players not suspecting a Recon to come out and pull out a few shots on them.

Also Lockdown is so much fun when you know what to do, even as a 4* gunner.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 13:01

Mentlegen

oops

oops, sorry, i meant the other one, iron slug

I dunno about you, but I think when your pure luck allows you to swing your bigass sword like a tiny wooden stick, there is something wrong with UVs

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 13:05

Sgtbrown

Ah, yes, the Callahan's underused underrated cousin...

That said, I do agree on what you said. Supposedly the Iron Slug has more range than the Callahan, but the lack of Stun -which is about as helpful against strikers as Shock, without something like a damage buff to back up, makes it really not worth the 800 CE.

Same in PvE; you can actually use it against construct and slimes due to normal damage -how useful it is I dunno, someone has to tell me that- but the lack of Stun again makes it unlikeable.

Also your complaining on UVs tbh falls on deaf ears. There's absolutely nothing wrong with UVs, whether it be in PvE or PvP.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 13:06

Yvanblo

Contradiction?

Are you contradicting yourself by saying you want balance, but then you also want UV's to do something extra special? Doing something extra special destroys balance.

Maybe I'm not understanding you...

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 13:14

Mccblock

Disagree

I seriously disagree with everything you are saying.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 13:33

Mentlegen

I don't really want UVs to

I don't really want UVs to exist, but i like the concept, if only they provided slight bonuses and weren't luck based and if you could get ones you want for a fixed price or something that would be ok...As I said, the game is impossible to balance completely because of the trinkets and stuff, but it can be more balanced than it is now, at least balance weapons and armor.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 13:43

Serell

I have a Callahan. It's good, but I would be in favor of a small buff. Not too much, but I do feel it needs a small buff.
But definitely buff Iron Slug first.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 13:45

Yvanblo

My last post was not helpful

Here is some constructive criticism to go along with it.

I have the opposite opinion. I think there needs to be LESS balance. At least in weapons and gear. There SHOULD be items that are just ridiculously powerful. Think BFG 9000 from Doom, or the AWP sniper rifle in Counter-Strike. Both are powerful. Perhaps not easy to use, but very powerful if you know how to use them. Then there's the Noisy Cricket from Men in Black... ok, ok, it's not a video game, but come on, who doesn't love an insane little gun?

Balance is not all it's cracked up to be. Balance, in this game, is most important for PvP, but for PvE, come on, throw balance out the window and let us have some fun with off the charts weapons. Most games have them, and they are often the most exciting guns to use.

A suggestion for lockdown: OOO should have a selection of gear that can be rented, and the 200 crown entry fee is now the rental fee for said gear. With the right number of gear combos there would be enough variation that it would work and not be based entirely on skill alone. But the gear would be determined by OOO, and would therefore be much more balanced. Then we can stop with the "balance" forum posts.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 13:51

#10

Aquajag

@Yvanblo The thing is,

@Yvanblo
The thing is, everything costs pretty much the same. The exception perhaps being things that you can only get from bosses, because you need to farm them. Or now those recipes are harder to find than other normal recipes. But the cost of making every item is... the same. So one would expect the results to be fairly balanced. I'd say for the most part, they are. But it's dissapointing that there are so many weapons that are, generally, trash. As a bomber, I hate that there are 3 bombs not worth using (Ionized Salt, Big Angry, and Irontech), and a fourth that is pointless (Deconstructor). Just take them out of the game! I guess that's my question: now that it has been determined which items are great, and which are OK, why not just trash the bad ones?

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 15:02

#11

Shoebox

the Cobalt stuff was the

the Cobalt stuff was the first gear to ever be put in the game

But that's wrong.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 16:06

#12

Zeddy

@Yvanblo

There is no excuse for a 5* weapon that has the same energy cost as any other 5* weapon (most materials being worth next to nothing, especially compared to energy) to be obsolete compared to other weapons. I agree with your intent, though.

I don't want to see toothpicks, polaris, RSS, skolver armour or whatever the next guy complaining about is nerfed; I want to see other equipment become equally overpowered.

Sat, 06/23/2012 - 10:18

#13

Mentlegen

@ Mccblock you can't deny

@ Mccblock
you can't deny that azure guardian is worse than any 5* armor with normal/piercing defense
@ Yvanblo
seems like a good idea

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Two things I don't like about this game