I'm not just looking forward to the new mechanic for bad/new bombs. I'm looking forward to trying a revamped RSS as well.

YES, being able to one-shot things with a clever bomb plant is cool. I've done FSC with it, I've done wolver dens with it, I've even done Deconstruction Zones with it. I've done many levels with it, with every enemy type. It got old. It is too powerful (and in other ways not that useful.) This is a four star bomb that is decently effective against everything without using any normal damage, and extremely powerful against other things. Yes, it is TOO POWERFUL how it is now.
(Before anyone tries to refute this information, I'm looking at data tables I've been gathering since November and most pure non-normal weapons are doing about 1/6 or at MOST 1/5 as much damage to enemies they are weak against compared to enemies they are strong against. RSS is doing pretty consistently 50% as much damage to Jellies and Gremlins as it is doing to Undead - never mind fiends with the built in bonus.)

It's also a pain for your party in rooms with switches because it's near impossible to control all of the shards so they don't hit a switch WAY out of sight.

I haven't seen it in action yet with the new change, so I will reserve judgement until I see how much damage it does, how much knockback it has, what the charge times are like (I'm hoping RSS doesn't change, and ISB gets a **** of a lot faster,) and the overall usefulness of this. We don't even know how many shards will break off, how far they go, how randomly they spread... or much of anything aside from what it does now, and ROUGHLY what it will be doing later.

I have an RSS (with a decent UV,) and I like my RSS.
HOWEVER: so far, no one's been given a reason to freak out, get upset, or start petitioning against a change. All we've been given is a polite warning of what's coming so that we aren't all freaked out and people don't start flipping tables when the change happens (even though we all know it will still happen.)

I'm looking at data tables I've been gathering since November and most pure non-normal weapons

pure non-normal weapons

RSS is a split weapon. For gremlins the piercing has the exact same effect as normal damage and for slimes the elemental has that effect. It's not even all that powerful; It doesn't kill hordes of undead as fast as a Divine Avenger does, nor a Trojan as fast as a Blitz Needle.

I don't even care about the power of it, and suck at Lockdown with it too so I don't bring it there. I want to keep RSS because it's the single most fun mechanic Spiral Knights has. OOO is removing what makes this game the most entertaining for me, and I'd rather they didn't.

Toastnaut,

RSS is only decently good vs turrets and constructs. It is only amazing vs zombies and ONLY zombies. Nitronome is a better choice for pretty much everything else. What keeps RSS in the fold is that its unique attack gives it capabilities that nitro lacks such as multi-hit (which in most cases nitro is still the better choice) and long range sniping.

The only thing that makes RSS APPEAR to be overpowered is that it is currently really really really good vs zombies and FSC (The only worthwhile tier 3 content) is essentially NOTHING BUT zombies. RSS is not the problem. FSC is currently a joke, especially for bombers with nitronome/RSS/shivermist.

RSS in pvp is mostly good for its range (which is a vital counter to polaris spam) and its dual special damage which allows it to score around 80%+ of its maximum damage vs most targets. In order to do well with it, one of three things need to be present: Stupid strikers, meatshield teammates or a really clever bomber. Otherwise, you will just get killed by any decent gun user if you try to spam. With all this it still has competition from nitronomes and haze bombs in turns of effectiveness.

TL;DR RSS is not overpowered (it fills an important niche for bombers) , FSC is a joke (which is the only worthwhile endgame level), Striker noobs whine that blinding charging at a RSS bomber doesn't instantly get them a kill.

The 'new' RSS sounds like another nitronome that will either render the current nitronome useless or just suck and drive bombers to only use nitronome.

Variety over consistency Nick. Do not eliminate AN ENTIRE bomber playstyle because it is not consistent with those "rules" (coughPolariscough) that you should have set in stone during beta (now it honestly feels like an excuse). Swordies have heavy,calibur,cutter, and flourish styles which all cover a certain useful niche. Gunners have blaster alchemer, magnus, autogun, pulsar and antigua, all useful niches. Bombers will soon only have two useful niches, nitronome and status haze bomb.

New bombs? I am not going to instantly assume they are new niches of bombs and not just status/damage variants of nitronome or haze bomb.

Everyone, please consider what I have said and simply ask for RSS to stay the same while a new bomb gets the new attack mechanics.

@Metagenic

No oneshotting anything anymore, even if you have full bomb buffs from armor and trinkets and the enemy steps right onto the bomb
I dont see why that would be a problem. Bombs are meant to deal dmg over a large area, not 1-shot an enemy.

No use in Lockdown (because explosions will be a lot easier to avoid than direct impact shards)
You can't know that for sure

@Allunova WRONG RSS is AMAZING against fiends dont disregard the fiend bonus

I peronally don't like the change as I become another Sucka trying to get huge dmg with no skolver in lockdown.
My undead killing basically becomes 80% Voltedge 18% gigawatt pulsar the other 2% is others
Fiends become hellishly hard.
Please dont change it OOO

Sppw is sad

¬ Sppw

Nope, it is reasonably effective against everything, against fiends and undead it's just that much more effective. I wouldn't have tried using it against gremlins, or slimes (which are neutral/weak) to its damage types, but getting damage values for the wiki, I had to.

In doing this, I found that it is EXTREMELY effective against them if you are strategic about how you place your bombs. Like I said above, it only does half as much damage to them as it does to undead, which is is strong against (and quite powerful.) This is mainly (but not only) because of the fact that you can get several hits with one detonation against a target. Its damage is also just unusually high for something that launches 8 projectiles and has a small detonation area.

If you want to compare it to the Nitronome, against Gremlins and Jellies, each detonation is doing about 60% as much damage as a nitro blast, depending on depth (it's less in tier 1, but as you go deeper down the gap closes a bit more.) If you get just two hits on one target, you've already done more damage than a Nitro can to it in one blast. So no, if you are placing your bombs well, Nitro is only more effective if you can get many enemies in the blast. Even then, we're talking about enemies that RSS is the worst against; it does more damage still to everything else.

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If everyone didn't assume that Change = Nerf, there'd be a lot less freaking out and whining about upcoming changes. (I don't mean to say that everyone who's said anything negative is whining, but there are some...) Nick has said that they intend to keep it as powerful as it is, but adjusting damage values to reflect the new dynamic.
Until we see what the change is, lets assume that it is just as "effective" against things as it is now, but will work differently.

If we all complain about a change before we see it, and we're wrong, we just look like idiots and complainers. If we wait and see, and keep an open mind and do/don't like it, then we can tell OOO what we think of it, and we'll be much more credible than if we complain now and then go "see!? I told you so." after the fact. This is because after all of the complaining, everyone is tired of hearing it by the time you're proven right, if you even are.
Being a "stick in the mud" about something, without having all of the information, even if you end up being right, just makes you look obstinate at best after the fact.

@Zeddy, yes I know that neutral damage types are the same as normal damage against enemies, it's still a fully non-normal bomb. This means that it does funny things with damage numbers, but it's not fully neutral against anything except for drones. Interestingly, when I was gathering damage values for the split damage antigua lines, I found that there was a big difference between the damage they were doing to drones, and the things they were both strong and weak to with their damage types. With the RSS, the damage values for drones and "strong/weak" enemies is VERY close, it doesn't take much of a hit against beasts and constructs for having a weak damage type against them (on some depths it is stronger than neutral damage.)

@Metagenic Lots of players were accustomed to beating FSC through various exploits that have been gradually patched out of the game. Fixing those exploits took that out of the game, but that doesn't make those patches a bad thing.
This isn't exactly the same as an exploit per se, but I think that Nick and the Dev team have made it pretty clear that how it's being used isn't how it's intended. Just because people are using it that way and will have to learn how to play the game more how it was meant to be played by the people who made it... doesn't really seem like cause for upset.
Just because they won't have something they're accustomed to, doesn't make it a bad thing. It just means they'll have to learn to do without it.

This has only been said everywhere, so I can see why you've missed it but no one wants to stop the new bomb from coming into existence. Since the current RSS and the new RSS have completely opposing areas of utility we want the new RSS to be a new bomb altogether rather than replacing the current one.

The thing about your argument with the damage towards gremlins and such is that the damage dealt per shard has nothing to do with completely altering the bomb's mechanic. Just alter the damage so it deals neutral damage to neutral targets and puny damage to resistant targets. I wouldn't care about that.

Did the split Antiguas even exist anymore when drones were introduced?

I haven't missed what people are saying they want at all, however unrealistic it may be.

Nick has said that they're changing the shard bombs to bring them closer to what they intended them to be: a bomb that spreads out to do damage over a wide area instead of in a single blast area, not a tiny point of death to lure monster onto.
I don't know where in anything I said you got that I thought people wanted to prevent this new mechanic from being released.
Regardless of what I've said, as much as people want it, I haven't seen it said anywhere by anyone who affects changes to the game that there is consideration to keep the current shard bomb mechanic and just bring in something new as well.
Personally, I do my best to ignore people who want to try to force their way with insufficient information; petitions to stop, or alter changes that haven't been made yet just seems foolish and short-sighted to me.
If the bombs get changed, and everyone hates them, THEN I could see cause to start a thread discussing ways to improve things, or to revert the changes.

The damage VS weak targets though, has everything to do with altering the mechanic. In one hit, the damage the RSS does to a gremlin is rather poor. Being able to easily hit one gremlin between 2 and 9 times with a detonation as it is now (or being able to hit a tight cluster of 3-4 of them between 4 and 6 times each in one detonation, or any variation) is what makes this current bomb overpowered in some situations.
With a cluster bomb mechanic that they've announced, I'll go ahead and assume that none of the clusters will overlap (as everyone moaning about how much less damage they'll be doing is assuming.) If this is the case, the damage output of the bomb will be more similar to the mechanics of other weapons in the game in terms of being good against things their damage type is strong against, and poor against things they are weak against.
If the clusters' detonations do overlap, it'll probably still do more damage than most blast style bombs, even against weak targets.

The specific problem with the bomb as it is (and I mean this as it seems to be from OOO's perspective of what's intended with the bomb VS how it's beings used) seems to have less to do with what kind of damage it's doing, and more to do with how many hits it's scoring against individual targets.
Besides, suggesting that fixing the damage and leaving the mechanic is not a solution.

If the original post that Nick made said that they would be reducing the damage of the RSS in order to balance how powerful it is when it hits one, or a few targets many times at once, people would probably be even fussier than they are now.

I'm trying my best not to be sarcastic here: Yes, the split damage antigua lines were still around when drones were introduced. That's how I got charts of the damage values against them for neutral damage for the Silversix and Blackhawk...

I do strongly agree with Vaguabond's concern though, about knockback. One of the reasons why I use the RSS is the lack of knockback, and range that it has to hit distant targets without screwing up my team.
I'm hoping that the clusters spread a good distance, that the spread of the shards before they explode is at least as far as a Nitronome blast.
I'm also hoping that the knockback is either very small, or that the way that the clusters spread knocks things mostly inwards, making this bomb fun and reasonably easy to chain attacks without having to corral enemies into a corner somewhere to keep from scattering them.

TBH, I saw the post above from one player saying they were surprised there was so much negativity in this thread, and so few people excited for the change, and new content. Based partly on that, and partly on frustrating seeing everyone jumping on the +1 bandwagon without even knowing what's coming, I stuck my neck out and posted my opinion, and information that I knew wasn't the most popular to try to stimulate some intelligent discussion instead of just more "Hurr, this is bad because I like my RSS and I am scared of change." (Not that that reflects every post that's not in favor of the change... but that sentiment seems far too prevalent.)
The fact that Nick came on and made a rare post about upcoming content (including new weapons) and everyone has gotten so hung up on changes that are coming to the RSS without even knowing how they'll work is pretty sad. People SHOULD be excited that we're getting the kind of update that many players complain is lacking daily, and make big dramating "leaving game" threads over. Instead we get a big mess of people trying to dump all over the work that OOO is doing on their game without even knowing more than the basics.

And if the guys behind Gears of War decided to change the shotgun to alter game play, that would be their right.

Since it's been left alone, evidently it's not such a high priority.
In this case, it seems the shard bombs are pretty far in practice from what OOO wanted them to be, since they're getting a pretty significant change to alter how they work.
They certainly don't have to alter things to control game play, but who's to say that they can't, or shouldn't?
If the changes suck, lets complain then. For now we have been warned they're coming, so lets keep an open mind and see how they work when it's done.

The last two games I remember where the devs inflicted how they thought the game should be played on the players was Final Fantasy XI and Super Smash Brothers Brawl. At least on the Brawl front, how well do you think the competitive community for that game is doing in comparison to the community they had for SSBM?

tl;dr; I agree with Golfdinger on the devs shouldn't force how the game should be played on the players.

That was a good post; there's not much I can refute in it. Is the RSS really that powerful, though? Maybe I just never got to be good enough with it but my take on it is as such:

-If you try really hard you can one-shot-kill a skelly or something with an RSS charge. It does a good job against a handful of skellies, too. I've never used these swords but from observation I'd be surprised if you couldn't kill more skellies faster, or at least equally, using Brandishes or Avenger.
-It's decent against devilites, although they dodge the shots a lot. Most swords kill devilites faster while Calahan will kill them faster and safer.
-If you prepare it in advance and expect it, you can use RSS against greavers, hopefully killing them fast. Swords and Calahan does this easier. I think the new RSS might not suck against them so hopefully a pure bomber won't be screwed against this enemy.
-If you try really hard you can two-shot a Trojan with RSS (it gets easier if you use a voltaic or shivermist to aid with it but then that's not really a two-shot). I guess if you try extremely hard you can get the Trojan exactly on the RSS and one-shot him as well. I've never managed to do this, and it's pretty much only feasible while having the Trojan charge right at you. Meanwhile, one-shotting Trojans with Blitz Needle is something everyone and their mothers can do.
-You can one-shot a Crusader with RSS in a small enough party or maybe with enough damage boost, and it's not very hard to do if it's just one or two of them and nothing else. I haven't found it as effective as Polaris in LoA.
-If you try really hard you can make an RSS charge do the damage of maybe two entire Calibur swipes to a few slimes or gremlin. I've found it mostly useful against gremlins because they keep dodging the projectiles and thus don't attack me as often. Against a large amount of these types of enemies it's still outperformed by most neutral or strong 4* weapons.
-It's decent against constructs and beasts. There's a far better bomb for beasts in large numbers (which is also amazing against everything but jellies and constructs) and they're still killed faster or equally fast by neutral swords.
-It's the best bomb ever to break crystals with! Maybe even faster than swords and guns!
-You can hit switches that are pretty far away with it provided the switch can be accessed in one of the eight directions. It's also easy to hit multiple switches and just bork everything up though.

It's not more powerful than anything, it's just pretty versatile.

Before I begin my wall of text, here's a fun fact about the RSS: it is only 1 of 2 purely offensive bombs that create elemental damage (the other being the electron vortex line.)

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Being a bomber in Lockdown frequently, I have an RSS in my arsenal. I've also found this bomb to be useful in taking out T3 howlitzers. But I've never seen any "meaty" damage as Nick is saying without damage bonuses (in my case from full mad bomber.)

I think what's going on here, though, is the classic catering to one group of players..

Ever notice how many strikers complain about RSS being overpowered? Ever notice how many strikers you see in a lockdown game? It's a theory, but I have a feeling it's a classic example of a game design company catering to their primary audience. :P (And trust me, I've seen this happen in other games.)

Three rings, I ask that you please atleast give it a trial period. If nobody approves of the new "cluster-bomb" mechanics, put it on a new bomb-line and keep the RSS in their old way.

Last note, here's some food for thought..

Most guns act like bombs, some even act like an RSS. Alchemers make a giant split shot/ricochet. There's also the pulsar line, which is essentially a bomb gun. Swords in some cases do more than a bomb can. The brandish line is a prime example with causing strong status effects per explosion (that has an OP damage honestly.) Why is it wrong that the RSS can at most take out an enemy that more often than not a single blitz needle charge can do 10x easier?

But from the way nick has described it so far, its really not gonna be as great in pvp. RSS is the only thing that makes me fear bombers.

@Zeddy
Maybe, but not the part that damage types may be getting tweaked to "better suit" their intended purpose.. Which may mean another piercing bomb. :/ And how isn't the electron vortex offensive? It's impractical, sure. But it has an AoE and an explosion. :P

But also I'm worried that this'll severely deflate the LD bomber. It's the only weapon that can compete with those toothpicks or even guns without it being a death wish. :/ DBB does a good job from time to time, but can't compare with the RSS against that often polars (BOMB GUN! >:c) spamming freak. :/

@Sky-Hawk
I actually think we'll see the RSS changed into pure elemental and the ISB to pure shadow. (Or possibly normal.) If you think about it, the removal of the shard-mechanic means that piercing wouldn't even make sense anymore and we've only been asking for elemental and shadow DPS bombs forever. (Dark Retribution being behind a paywall meaning some people don't find that shadow isn't adequately covered). I know RSS has the fiend bonus and I can't be as sure what'll happen to those. I have a hunch the enemy-specific bonuses will be removed.

Vortex isn't offensive because the time between each explosion is too long to kill anything in a reasonable time. It's an excellent bomb for helping other people kill things very, very fast and you could argue that makes it offensive but I think that just makes it supportive.

@Xbladebreak
Actually, there is no way to hit enemies in Lockdown with more than one shard at a time due to invincibility frames. Said frames make a lot of weapons useless in Lockdown.

I agree otherwise. It's a very handy, versatile, pretty powerful tool if you're skilled and willing to take some huge risks, but everything it does can be done better with other weapons.

In the game-design industry (especially Online MMO) companies tend to ignore their customers. :P this is likely a change meant to help their precious striker army in lockdown. :P Think about it, how many bombers are there in respect to strikers? they can afford to lose a few bombers, but imagine the uproar if they nerfed the toothpicks and/or the polaris? They'd be risking their paycheck with that. :P

Likely, what's going to happen is this (and in this order too):
The RSS get changed, the (bomber) community uprises, the swordsman community downtalks the bombers and cheers for the change, and the developers explain the uselessness of the update in a way that makes it sound like they're heroes...

... I've seen it happen with another MMO (which is why I left it,) but I hope that Three Rings is a different kind of MMO company. :/

This thread doesn't indicate any majority opinion. It's a simple fact that people are more likely to chime in about something if they are unhappy with it than if they are happy, and are very unlikely to chime in at all if they are indifferent.

This thread indicates, if anything that the most vocal people are unhappy with the change. That's hardly news, since anyone could have told us that it would be the case before the thread had two replies.

The forum isn't the only source of feedback that OOO gets, either, just the most public one.
Not reverting or reconsidering a change because there's lots of complaining about it, isn't "ignoring players."

Now it may BE that it's a majority that dislikes this change, but this thread doesn't indicate anything like that. It's a voluntary discussion, not a random polling of players.

TBH, it's very unlikely that this change is being made to give an advantage to any certain class in Lockdown, and depending how this bomb works, it could be VERY dangerous in there. If the shards split off and explode as soon as they stop, rather than stopping and then counting down again like a normal bomb... you won't have to be directly hit by a shard to get hit by it. If that's the case, it will be far BETTER in LD, not worse.

Besides, it's not like OOO has to justify changes. It was nice that they explained it to us though. What is/isn't bomb-like for what they intend for the game is up to them, and subject to lots of interpretation. I don't think Polaris is very gun-like, but lots of players might disagree. They're entitled to their opinions, just as I am mine. When it comes to design elements, the only opinion that ultimately matters is the one belonging to the guys who're coding the game.

I have a question Nick;

Is it a blast cube? I mean mechanicaly?

(Also, you should do this to the heavy deconstructor line and just make the sun shards projectiles start firing at a range so you can't multihit. I'll admit it's close range capabilitys need a nerf.)

You are mistaken about the "attempted change" to Sun Shards before, and the "requests" that players have for the change, or at least what they mean.

OOO didn't "try to change" the shard bombs before. They posted a potential change on the test server for players to try, and see if people liked them.
Even though they were upfront at the time, that they were just playing with ideas for us to try to fix the bomb, a lot of people flipped out, assumed that they were planning to introduce these changes without getting feedback (even though it was on the TEST SERVER - DUH,) and posted a lot of rage about it.

At the same time, they got a lot of good feedback about what was bad about the idea of changing it to pure piercing, mainly because it turned the bomb into a pure fiend killer, that fiends still dodged really well.

I remember at the time (as one of the people on the test server, and someone who was posting feedback about other things for them) that I was impressed that OOO seemed to be able to sift through all of the rage and silliness and pick out the important parts: Damage change didn't improve the bomb; it wasn't any better against dodgy fiends; and introducing weapon changes on the test server freaks some players out who seem to forget what TEST SERVER means.

I remember Nick's final reply in the threads about that where he said simply that they "know what they're going to do with shard bombs in the future." Those may not have been the exact words, but I am certain it's a very close paraphrase.

Yeah, players are asking OOO to keep the shard bombs mechanic. They might still, I can't say.
However, they've made it pretty clear that their plan isn't to make more new bombs and have shard bombs as well, and that this new mechanic they're planning is something that they have in mind SPECIFICALLY to replace the shard bomb mechanic.
When this thread was posted, I was happy to see that the idea that they seemed to come up with when they tested the damage change on the test server, and it wasn't forgotten.

This new mechanic is probably something they've been internally testing, and have had in mind SINCE the damage test on the test server before, when Nick said he knew what they were going to do about these weapons then.

Yeah, lets beg and plead for them to throw all the work and planning they've done on these bombs since... November? October? in the trash, because we think we know better without seeing it.
Come on, really?

Before you go on your rant to the people voicing their opinion on this big change, here's a little food for though. :P

You seem to be thinking the game design world is able to take months of time on a single few weapons in a game, hmm? The thing is that this hasn't been happening since November, likely it's been analyzed and made into concept in that time, but no MMO company that I know would spend so much time on such a nebulous change. And if you think this has nothing to do with lockdown, then you're deadly wrong. :p A change like this happens from multiple points of a game, but more from the central core (money-maker) of the game.

... How many people use RSS (well) in the clockworks? Not too many. :P A small handful of bombers know how to use it right. (I'm not one of them XD).

But how often do you see an RSS spammer in lockdown that causes toothpick spammers to rage? Way more often.

The point is that the RSS aren't even close to damaging as nick claims, especially in lockdown. It took me mad bomber just to scratch the overpowered sword-holders.

But here's what worries me: if they do another blast mechanic akin to the Nitronome (large explosions, dangerous knockback, and screen-shaking,) the RSS will be another graveyard-status weapon in the bomber's arsenal. (And let's face it, there's the Deconstructer, the Irontech, the Big Angry Bomb... that leaves the Dark Briar Barrage, Nitronome, and RSS as the only feasible offensive bombs currently.) And sure, there's haze effect bombs, but when are we going to be able to do some damage to enemies with that on a solo run without spending hours killing one wave of enemies?

I think you're trying to stand up to he ragers and people who are whining. But think about this: how many people are mostly or pure bombers? :P

Edit:

By "ignore" in my previous post, I meant (more or less) when the players are either: A: Right about something, or B: Too much feedback to handle with their busy schedules. :P

I'll just leave it at that, then. :P you have your opinion, I have my own.

In case people are like "tl,dr", I gathered some arguments FOR and AGAINST the change

FOR
- Shards are not bomb-like, they don't "feel" like bombs. (Semi-subjective)
- The shard was intended to spread out and damage over a large area. (Fact)
- The RSS is too overpowered, both in PvE and PvP. (Subjective)
- The new cluster-like shards will increase the AoE damage on PvE. (Fact/Unknown, due to lack of information)

AGAINST
- Point-blank sharding with RSS is a high-risk/reward technique that requires skill, and would be eliminated with this patch. (Semi-subjective)
- The current shard bombs are versatile weapons able to perform duties of a gun and deal damage very well. (Fact)
- The cluster-like shards would make the RSS useless against single enemies. (Fact)
- The cluster-like shards would make the RSS useless on PvP (Subjective/Unknown)
- The cluster-like shards would be a new Nitronome (Hated by anyone in a party who is not a bomber) (Semi-subjective/Unknown)
- The RSS is very fun to use (Subjective)
- The shrapnel-like shards are, unlike Blast Bomb line, unobtrusive for other party members, due to no knockbak and no huge blast animation. (Fact)

I've summarized the "FOR" part a lot, since many arguments were too similar. I tried to be as impartial as possible, but I still got more stuff against the changes >_<
Please forgive me if I forgot anything, I'm just a box...
Derp

No, that's a stupid argument.

If I only took the most powerful weapons with me everywhere, I would not have the gear that I have, nor would I use the weapons that I do, which I find fun.

Unlike many players, I don't aim to use the most powerful gear everywhere, nor did anyone say that RSS is the most overpowered weapon, just that it is.

I don't take it everywhere with me, because I'm bored of it. Other things are more fun to use. After one-shotting enemies of every kind at every depth with it (to exaggerate things very slightly,) other things are more fun.

It's powerful, annoying (because it hits ALL of the switches in rooms with them, mainly) and the novelty of what it does got old.

Get over it, dude. I don't know what your problem is, but I don't really care either.

I don't know who you mean to win over by finding ways to make it look like something I said contradicts something else.

...When is this update going to happen? :/ Is it going to be before or after the new danger mission?