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Triglav & Sudaruska lines/ Divine Avenger & Gran Faust lines

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Thu, 07/19/2012 - 17:28

Phaseburst

I was playing on SK the other day when I suddenly noticed how my avenger was much faster than my jalovec and khorovod and because of that, did more damage.

IMO all 4* items are supposed to be equivalent to all other 4* items so I'm thinking maybe Sudaruska and Triglav lines should get a higher damage output, maybe 1.5x the damage of GF and DA lines, ik it seems pretty fair w/ Sudaruska and Triglav dealing statuses and being able to just about annihilate any Tier 3 enemy w/ charge but tell me what you think.

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 17:59

Magnicth

TRIIIGLAAAAAAVV!!!

1.I have a triglav myself,so i agree with a damage buff.
2.Unfortunately,since this is a suggestion,it belongs in the suggestion forums,not in the arsenal....

~Magnicth the Dragon Mage

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 19:52

Phaseburst

Whoops

Ill repost

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 20:30

Dukeplatypus

1.5 is ridiculous, you're

1.5 is ridiculous, you're vastly overestimating the actual damage bonus you get with a special damage type weapon.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 03:45

Bopp

right

Dukeplatypus is right. Using a sword against a vulnerable target gives you a bonus of about 75 points (note: not a percentage) over using the same sword against a neutral target. But it is true that DA/GF do vastly more damage than Suda/Trig, because the damage bonus combines with a faster rate of regular attacks for both DA and GF, and a faster rate of charge attacks for DA (see data here).

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 07:08

Phaseburst

Common Sense!!!

Wouldn't Common sense tell you that I mean to convert the elemental damage to 1.5x normal damage when it's not against a vulnerable target? After all, Sudaruska and Triglav both do normal damage

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 07:38

Bopp

huh?

"Wouldn't Common sense tell you that I mean to convert the elemental damage to 1.5x normal damage when it's not against a vulnerable target? After all, Sudaruska and Triglav both do normal damage"

I don't quite understand what you mean, but Dukeplatypus is objecting to your specific number 1.5. The vulnerability bonus is more like 1.25, and even that is not really realistic.

So how did you decide that Suda/Trig should be bumped up to 1.5 times the damage of DA/GF? If they did that much damage, then they would out-damage DA/GF against all targets, and DA/GF would be obsolete. It sounds like a bad idea.

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 09:40

Phaseburst

@Bopp

Sorry, but I think those Suda and Triglav users have an objection, It's either damage or speed+ because all 4 star sword weapons should have equality
and speed won't do, I see what your trying to get at, but Triglav and Sudaruska are THE SLOWEST swords in the game so why not most Damage? It's not going to affect DPS because obviously I used 1.5 as an example, but really, right now would you go for Suda/Triglav or DA/GF? Exactly

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 09:42

Phaseburst

Also

If you actually got a 90+in LA you would know that "maybe" isn't specific

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 09:50

Traevelliath

He's not objecting to the need for a damage boost though, he's objecting to the size of the damage boost you're proposing...

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 10:34

#10

Flists

Normal damage weapons will

Normal damage weapons will always be inferior/superior to specific damage weapons in different situations.

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 10:36

#11

Bopp

90+in LA?

If you actually got a 90+in LA you would know that "maybe" isn't specific

What's an LA, and why would I want mine to be at least 90 inches long?

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 10:57

#12

Demonicsothe

I'm assuming language arts,

I'm assuming language arts, and 90+ being the grade in said class.

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 14:49

#13

Fehzor

I tottaly aced Los Angeles in highschool...

Sudaruska > DA/GF. I'll make a thread about it, because I'd like it to be its own discussion.

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/60377

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