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Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:28
Jayyala

I currently wear 3 star gear and am wondering if i should get new items or upgrade somethings that i dont use currently

loadout
Helmet

Elemental hood

Armour

Solid Cobalt armour

Shield

Great defender

Weapons( that i currently use)

Fireburst brandish
kilowatt pulsar
Weapons( that i don't use)
Snarble barb
Autogun

I am a hybrid swordsman/gunner but i might want to becaome a gunner because people say when you get to t3 the enimies do a lot of damage no matter what you wear. Can you guys advise me on what i should get and also what i what things i should aim for

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:40
#1
Bopp's picture
Bopp
response

It's true that Tier 3 enemies do a lot of damage, no matter what you wear. But that doesn't mean that you should become a gunner. You can play as a sworder, or a bomber, or a mix. You just need to get good at dodging (which will happen).

For this reason, many players favor armor/shield that trades a little bit of defense for some strong offensive bonuses. For example, if you use swords, then Cobalt/Azure Guardian is completely outclassed by Wolver/Skolver, and Defender/Aegis is completely outclassed by Barbarous Thorn Shield. And those are just the sworder piercing armors; there's also Vog Cub to consider, and all of the gunner and bomber armors. Elemental Hood upgrades to two highly defensive helmets (Divine Veil and Grey Feather Cowl) and one highly offensive helmet (Chaos Cowl); all are good in their ways.

If you want to stay a hybrid sworder/gunner, with just one of each, then I'd recommend your piercing sword and your elemental gun. For more detail on my viewpoint, consult my sword guide, and in particular the sections "Basic concepts" and "Mixing weapon types".

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:04
#2
Jayyala
Should i upgrade my snarble barb

I read your sword guide and i think that i will use the advise to become a sworder. In you sword guide it said to get two different types of sword so i am thinking about upgrading my snarble barb and my fireburst. I am also thinking about getting wolver and bristling buckle. Tell me what you think.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:16
#3
Bopp's picture
Bopp
great

The weapon loadout that you've chosen is my very favorite: Combuster and Final Flourish/Barbarous Thorn Blade. Congratulations. It will serve you well for a long time. (Eventually you will want one or two more weapons for special situations.)

For shield, focus on either Barbarous Thorn Shield (if you want optimal offense) or Grey Owlite Shield (if you'd rather have more defense). If you want some cheap, general-purpose armor, then consider Divine Veil with Skolver Coat. If you want to plan farther ahead than that, replace the Divine Veil with Vog Cub; then you're closer to getting multiple specialized sets, which you'll want to do eventually.

The only drawback to these loadouts is that they're so popular. You might consider wearing some costume armor.

Finally, I want to encourage you to give guns and bombs a try, if only occasionally. Swords are my favorite, but I enjoy all ways of playing the game. And playing with other weapons gives you a greater understanding of the tactics employed by other people; you don't want to end up a narrow-minded sworder. Enjoy. :)

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 12:28
#4
Jayyala
Should i opt for chaos cowl or grey feather cowl

Thanks for the insight. You said that Divine veil/vog or with skolver is very common so i looked at the other alchemy paths for elemental hood andsaw that there was also chaos cowl and gray feather cowl. I looked at them and they seemed very viable. Chaos cowl provides more offensive boosts and has the normal resistance that divine veil lacks, but is weak to status effects. The grey feather cowl also had normal resistance but is very weak to stun( which is not good against lumbers). I was wondering if any of these are viable with skolver of vog cub coat instead of divine veil thanks.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 13:59
#5
Hungran's picture
Hungran
Personally

Personally I would opt out of the Elemental Hood and Solid Cobalt Armor for something that will be more effective in the future, such as Skolver or Vog.

On your weapons, I would continue to use your snarble barb, fireburst, and kilowatt. Ditch the autogun until you begin to fight Vana.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 14:22
#6
Jayyala
I was planning on getting vog

I was planning on getting vog cub coat, so if i opt out of the elemtal hood then what helmet do i get the skolver or vog cub?

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 14:24
#7
Jayyala
I was planning on getting vog

I was planning on getting vog cub coat, so if i opt out of the elemtal hood then what helmet do i get the skolver or vog cub?
Edit
Sorry about the double post

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 20:33
#8
Bopp's picture
Bopp
Divine Veil and Skolver Coat

The reason that the specific combination of Divine Veil and Skolver Coat is so great is that it protects against all four damage types, protects against four statuses including the three nastiest, and gives two offensive bonuses. If you pair Chaos with Skolver, for example, then you have no shadow protection.

You don't actually need all four damage protections, even on a "general-purpose" armor. If you want to leave one off, I suggest that it should be piercing, because slimes and beasts are just not very hard.

I've already suggested that one piece of Vog Cub and one piece of Skolver is an okay combination. Some other people will tell you just to get two pieces of Vog Cub, because that's better for Firestorm Citadel.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 23:19
#9
Bella-Donna's picture
Bella-Donna
hybridization

hybridization works best with careful research and learning how you like to play. I love swords due to the risk factor and bombs due to the huge explosions xD i balace my gear to get a ctr vh on the bombs, a damage bonus vh on my swords, and a dmg bonus high on my bomb while getting shadow, normal and elemental defences (the main 3)

go with how you enjoy playing and try for maybe a wolver/seerus combo but play how you enjoy playing not how people tell you too.

also try to balance your bonuses too.

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 04:01
#10
Jayyala
chaos cowl and snaborlax

i looked on the wiki and if you combine the chaos cowl or grey feather cowl with a snaborlax cap you will only leave off piercing resistance so should i do that?

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 04:28
#11
Willshock's picture
Willshock
Snarbie too hard for now

Getting snarbie armour or helmet means you have to do a shadow lair

Shadow lairs are ridicolously expensive and too hard for now

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 09:26
#12
Jayyala
what do you guys think about

what do you guys think about chaos cowl with divine cloak? I t covers all the damage types except for piercing.

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 10:06
#13
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
If you want to go for a

If you want to go for a loadout that protects from all damage, you'll probably want a loadout that really does that. The dangerous status weakness of chaos will mostly be canceled out by the divine mantle.

Is there a reason you want to make a set that leaves out piercing? Or do you want more normal defence? There isn't a best set for everything at once. If you want to build it, go ahead.

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 10:10
#14
Jayyala
@demonicsothe Bopp said that

@demonicsothe
Bopp said that piercing resistance can be left out when choosing a load out because beasts and slimes are very easy to fight. I want a general purpose armour first and then start building specialized sets

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 10:16
#15
Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
In that case, why not a piece

In that case, why not a piece of gunsliner and a piece of swordsmen armour? Shadowsun head and vog body. That's shadow and elemental defence, with bonuses to your weapons.

Sun, 07/22/2012 - 04:04
#16
Aquajag's picture
Aquajag
Long Live RSS!

The advice here is good. I'm not going to disagree with it, I'm just going to throw out a different point of view:

Forget about damage resistance types. An alternative is to focus on the gear bonuses you will get. I do pure bombing, and so i went the route of Mad Bomber. This does mean that I'm much safer in groups, because of all the status weaknesses. But no matter what a Bomber does, if the Bomber uses Bomber gear, they only ever have normal and elemental defense. Never piercing, never shadow. And we do just dandy, thank you very much. Sure, I take more damage in certain situations, but most players do.

Choosing armor that gives you an offensive boost is often preferred because frankly, no matter what you wear, getting hit is going to hurt. A Lot. The goal is to always avoid getting hit as much as possible. You'll probably only ever gain one or two hits, which is minimal. On the other hand if you can go from no damage boost to max, for example, you'll kill a whole lot faster. So mixing and matching is good, especially if you're going hybrid, but I wouldn't make having defense against all types as much a goal as defense against whatever causes you the most trouble, and good offense.

Sun, 07/22/2012 - 04:12
#17
Bopp's picture
Bopp
yeah

I agree with you, Aquajag, but I'd just like to point out that your viewpoint is not different; it's what was said in post #1.

Sat, 07/28/2012 - 04:33
#18
Jayyala
i have decided what i want my

i have decided what i want my loadout to be

Helmet
divine veil

Armour
skolver coat

Shield
Grey owlite shield

Weapons
Combuster
Barbarous thorn Blade
Acheron
Argent peacemaker

Sat, 07/28/2012 - 04:56
#19
Bopp's picture
Bopp
yep

Yep, that's a very solid loadout. It will serve you extremely well for a long time.

Eventually you may wish to get either Blitz Needle or Shivermist Buster, to be more useful against Vanaduke. Eventually, once you have firmer opinions on your play style, you may want additional sworder armor, or gunner armor, or bomber armor. Enjoy. :)

Sat, 07/28/2012 - 08:29
#20
Athresh's picture
Athresh
SUBJECT!!!

Slashing away at wolvers with your brandish even though you have snarble barb must be fun.

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