Spiral Knights - The Art of Continuous Bumping: Guide to Know When to Bump Appropriately

The Art of Continuous Bumping: Guide to Know When to Bump Appropriately

18 replies [Last post]

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 13:18

Isekuube

Bumping is an art, only something to do when your thread has fallen out of the first or even second page of whatever thread your are bumping's forum. Now, the reason I'm doing this is because of threads that get bumped before it falls off the first 5 threads, lets look at a couple of things here, shall we?

Bad Bumping:

~Bumping your thread before it falls off the front page.

Guild Recruitment: ~Bumping your thread before 24 hours after the last comment/bump.

I will not give bad bumping examples; you can find those on your own if you wish.

Good Bumping:

~Bumping your thread after it AT LEAST falls off the front page.

Guild Recruitment: ~Bumping your thread a few days after it has been posted or the last bump/comment.

Example of Good Bumping: [1] As you can see, it has been bumped 4 days since the OP has been posted.

That is all I have for now,

Isekuube

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 13:21

Pokenuevo

Bump

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 13:50

Tersakaff

I thought/hoped this was on shield bumping. :(

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 13:56

Artistbma

Lol Ise, this is because of

Lol Ise, this is because of the almire guild, right?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 13:58

Tersakaff

Almire Guild? I have to look at this..

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:22

Pauling

Bumping is ugly

Sorry to be critical, but this is a terrible guide.

What it boils down to is this: Don't bump a thread when you have nothing new to say. It makes your thread seem trivial and desperate.

If I see a bazaar forum thread with 30 replies, all from the same person saying "bump", then I will assume that the item is overpriced or otherwise undesirable. If I see a guild that bumps their thread, I will conclude that "bump" is the only thing they care about, and I will look elsewhere for interesting companions.

To keep your thread on the front page, try posting something worth reading, then reply to questions asked by others. If you are a guild, post about a new and upcoming activity you'll be doing together, and invite others to join. Then ask your guildmates to post honest feedback to the thread, to reflect whatever your actual level of activity is. Bumping a thread on the forums will just annoy people, and if everyone does it, you'll end up with a forum consisting of nothing but continuously bumped threads- which risks driving away the very users you're trying to reach.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:30

Oceanprince

I bump my selling thread for

I bump my selling thread for TF2 items when I have more items.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:53

Batabii

This doesn't belong in

This doesn't belong in general discussion

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 15:59

Trying

You dont belong in general discussion.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:22

Enclavean

This belongs EXACTLY in the general discussion. Btw brb got invited to JK run.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 16:38

#10

Njthug

Post spam or other nonsense

Post spam or other nonsense that disrupts the forum's formatting, functionality, or usability, including quote pyramids or "bump" posts.

Rules:

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/1413

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 21:13

#11

Hmmnm

You never know what will gain

You never know what will gain popularity...

There are a lot of good threads out there that should just be pinned to the top of the forums but the idea was so complete, noone had anything to say, and it fell off into obscurity. Except a bunch of other people posted a hackneyed version of the same thing, making the topic just another rage thread.

And sometimes a thread might become relevant when new content comes out...

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 21:30

#12

Rommil

Bump vs Reminder vs Inquiry for Response

I believe a bump is a bump. It is annoying spam intended for the soul purpose of forcing people to consume a topic, thread, or sales-pitch that everyone has intentionally not supported.

Reminder, this is in the event of a relevant bringing back up of a topic--primarily used in the Bazaar forums. Reminders should be just that, a reminder of what it was you have offered for sell. No one needs to be reminded every 3-4 hours. Even twice a day. Once a day should suffice. If it gains traction that day, don't worry, others will keep it relevant. If it doesn't, come back tomorrow, or two-to-three days. Maybe no one is looking for a (insert UV)(insert peice of gear) right now. But its certainly smart of you to remind people you have it next week, in case someone new has started and wants just that!!! or someone else has tired of their current toys and is now in the market for a new fun shiny.

**also, reminders less oft can occur in general discussion, such as reminding people of the iron slug buff thread, or guild hall updates thread, to bring it back to relevance, and usually to ask a GM if its still in the works, or to remind them this is a pressing concern of the community, and one we'd all love to be addressed sooner than later.

***Linking other threads to sarcastically and mockingly prove that pet threads have already been suggested is not a reminder. Sometimes necessary, but a reminder is "truer" of spirit.

Inquiry for Response. If you have created a thread that you consider quite important to yourself, it is okay and even appropriate to follow up with an inquiry for response. This should be done in much the same time frame as a reminder (i.e. once a day at most) and should contain a sincere request for response. Lets not judge people's thought process, just because we may consider a thread "dumb" or "uninformed" --for whatever reason: childish inquiry, unintelligent writing style, or initially thought it a troll thread because "EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS THAT!!!"--doesn't mean its not important to the OP. After all, they took the time to write it out. Obviously some will be trolls. But those threads will be BUMPED not followed up with an Inquiry for response. This is most often used in teh suggestions forums, as someone makes a suggestion, and finds it untouched days later, and would actually like to know what others thought. Thus, they return to the topic and ask others to please give them constructive feedback.

In conclusion, a bump is a bump. These are hazardous to the forums, bury good threads, and annoy us all. Don't do it. Do use the other tools at your disposal to intelligently and graciously bring a topic back to life that you feel died too soon.

Fri, 07/27/2012 - 15:28

#13

Pauling

Wiki > bumping

Bumping threads to call attention to a good idea isn't really feasible; there are too many good ideas. In another game I've played, one player / robotic overlord maintained a wiki page called "The List" containing ideas that had been either proposed, commented on by devs, or both. That would provide a central, organized way to find good ideas without wading through several dozen stickied posts.

However, this sort of thing requires a fair-minded and dedicated set of moderators to keep up with the Suggestions and Bug Reports forums. Because it would contain a limited subset of posts, it might be best on a user page or in an area clearly marked as opinion. If someone wants to do this, feel free to contact a wiki admin with questions about how to proceed.

Sat, 07/28/2012 - 07:06

#14

Tersakaff

@Nj
I think that rule is silly.

Ok I'll give up selling and bumping a single thread and I'll make a new one for my items every time the old one gets buried too deep! Seriously, people want to sell their items.

Sat, 07/28/2012 - 10:56

#15

Pauling

Ters: your desire to sell may

Ters: your desire to sell may or may not be matched by the desire of others to buy. I stopped using the bazaar forum completely because it was a mass of bump posts, uninformative thread titles, and mediocre items. See above for alternate ways to get attention for your thread and thereby sell items.

...assuming that you can't use the auction house, trade channel, or reply to posted buy offers, of course. If no one at all bids on your item after several days, that may be a hint. But I think you already know other ways to get exposure- you've done a really good job engaging the community in your fashion thread, for example. Why not use that experience in designing a more engaging bazaar storefront?

Sat, 07/28/2012 - 11:43

#16

Tersakaff

I refuse to use the AH because of the fee and 10%, as well as the chance to have the item sell for a low bid price or not at all.
I "spam" trade channel every evening as I post.
I rarely find buy offers.
Items don't sell the second they're put up whether they have a fair or high price.
Every time you bump your thread you have a chance that new people see it as they just weren't looking the last time, people who are potential clients.
A title and a storefront cannot be pimped out too much to engage attention, it is the content that does 90% of the work.
A fancy title does not bring clients if they aren't interested.
A well-organized title and thread is the best you can do, displaying your items as best as you can.

Sat, 07/28/2012 - 12:08

#17

Pauling

More spam, less customers

Except, of course, that continuous bumping will drive customers away from the bazaar forum altogether: too much advertising can reduce the available client pool. You're describing a situation where everyone wants to sell and few people want to buy. (By analogy: I started using Adblock for sites that were rendered unusable by ads. There are now more ads, with fewer people looking at them)

When I suggest "pimping out your storefront", I'm not just referring to diamond canes and breaking the knees of anyone who window shops. It's also about creating content that people want to discuss: interesting sets, negotiable prices that encourage other people to post and ask questions, unusual items, or special unique offers. For example, you could offer fashion consultations prior to purchase, and say "post here to set up a meeting time". That will make your items seem more desirable, because you'll be one of the few threads that has real replies.

Use your unique talents to build customer relationships... and recognize that some of your items may not be worth the effort of selling. Don't poison the entire river in your rush to get a single sip.

Sat, 07/28/2012 - 13:25

#18

Tersakaff

I sell what I have to sell mang. < m > I can't put other things.
Not everybody wants or needs fashion consultations. Plus they're free in my thread.

No I won't stop trying to sell. :(
Sorry.

Search

The Art of Continuous Bumping: Guide to Know When to Bump Appropriately