Spiral Knights - The value of demo armour

The value of demo armour

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Sat, 04/30/2011 - 07:13

Sparkster

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Hey guys, i'm fairly new here, so please go easy on me!
I've recently acquired both a spiral demo suit and a helm, finding both of them useful for my quests down Tier 2, I was just wondering which of the three Five star upgrades is the best to equip when i get that far? Bombastic demo, Mad bomber or Volcanic Demo? Should i go with the full set: helmet and suit for each, or shouldIi just break all the rules and go crazy: maybe equip a mad bomber helm with a volcanic demo suit? Mad i tell you, MAD!

Another question is that is the demo suit range a good armour in the first place? I liked it for the sturdy defence to be honest, even though I haven't bought or crafted a bomb yet! Is the demo suit range considered to be a good armour range?

Finally, does anyone know a good handgun to go with an arc razor? i was considering a shadowtech alchemizer or a needleshot, please give advice!

Thanks to anyone who comments, What I find so odd about Spiral knights is how nice all the players are to each other! This is my first MMO i've played and i'm loving it!

Cheers comrades!
-Sparkster the rocket knight (play Rocket knight adventures for sega genesis)

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 07:44

Hardstep

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If you're an enthusiastic bomb-user, then the demo suit armor line is a good one for you. The bonuses come in the form of Charge Time Reduction or Damage Increase (bombs only), depending on which of the three 5* sets you choose. I reccommend checking out the wiki and deciding for yourself which you'd prefer, but briefly:

Volcanic - Fire resist, CTR: Medium on both pieces
Bombastic - Dmg Bonus: Low on both pieces
Mad Bomber - CTR: Medium, Dmg Bonus: Medium on both pieces; negative resistance to Fire/Poison/Freeze/Shock

Additionally, the MBomber set has slightly lower levels of Defense, both normal and elemental. Basically it is the set you use if you want to deal damage *hard* with your bombs, and not worry so much about defense. Of course you can mix and match pieces, don't feel that you absolutely must use two of the same line.

The Demo line is a pretty decent set even if you're not a full-time bomber; you get healthy amounts of normal and elemental defense which will serve you well in all Tiers.

I don't use guns at the moment - I run Sword/Bomb, and usually in a group of three or a pair. My suggestion would be a Cryotech Alchemer to go with the Arc Razor, so you can freeze mobs and finish them with the sword.

However, since you're using the Demo line... why not use bombs?

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 11:53

Eeks

Just a correction, Volc has

Just a correction, Volc has Medium CTR on helm and Low CTR on suit.

Bombastic is clearly the black sheep of the bunch. Not only does it not look good but the stats just don't make a lot of sense. The noob look alike helm should at least have Med DMG like the other two sets and it has no status resist like the Volc.

Mixing and matching seems like the best way to go (outside of fire themed depths where volc is the better choice unless you get some sick UV). Keep in mind that bombs get medium CTR naturally at level 10 and that bonuses are additive. So running one piece of Volc and one piece of Mad Bomber gets you very high CTR which will put your bombs at their maximum charge time reduction. One other thing to note is that since Volc Suit is only low CTR, the most bang for your buck is to run Volc Helm + MB Suit (Medium DMG + Vhigh CTR) vs only Med DMG + high CTR.

Some other notes:
-If you run pure volc you can max out your CTR by buying cheap low CTR bombs.
-If you get a vhigh dmg bomb you can max out that dmg by wearing just 1 piece of mad bomber
-The 100 token trinkets cancel out negative status effects of one piece of mad bomber so you change out trinkets to target specific stratum

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Also, I'm with Hardstep on guns. I solo with bombs and 1-2 swords depending on the stratum (or no swords if I have a competent team). Get used to throwing pots or potions to hit switches though

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 12:28

Negimasonic

about Volc suit

D: omg no way, I thought helms and armor basically did the same thing with effects so I choose to level my demo suit and wolver cap instead of vice versa...

ugh...this means I was doing it wrong :'( oh well too late to turn this around immediately. I was aiming for a shivermist next, I'll worry about making up for this later..

Any other discrepancies like this? The wiki says on this: http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Helmet that Heavy Demo Helm is CTR Medium, but on here: http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Heavy_Demo_Helm it's "low"

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 13:08

Eeks

4* set is low ctr on both. I

4* set is low ctr on both.

I would actually love to see bombastic get low dmg and ctr on both pieces or low ctr on both pieces with med dmg on helm and low dmg on suit. I think at that point it'd have enough going in its favor to make choosing between the 3 alchemy lines more difficult.

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 18:43

Negimasonic

alright thanks, though this

alright thanks, though this sure means its weird that the volcanic helm and suit is different

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