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A question on defenses.

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Sat, 04/30/2011 - 10:17
SimularMine
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Just a few questions on how in general defenses work in this game (because it seems like it's never explained well ingame how defenses apply to the player, just enemies):

>Say, I have a full Azure Guardian set, would it be a major disadvantage in t3, because numerous enemies get full elemental/piercing/shadow defense?
>Do armor and helm defenses apply to how much damage shields take, or is it just dependant on shield defenses?
>How important is it to cover a range of defenses for a knight's endgame armor?
>Do shield defenses apply to how much damage you take, even if you get hit while not guarding?

Educated responses would be appreciated, although any answers would be accepted, as i'm trying to think of a neat 5* loadout for my swordsknight and i'm not sure I want to go with the straight skolver/vog cub set.

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 11:49
#1
Foxhound3857
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1. I'd say you'd be at a

1. I'd say you'd be at a disadvantage if you don't have decent Elemental defense; a lot of enemies dish out that kind of damage. Shadow defense is a bonus for Devils and Undead, but it's not a necessity to survival. And right now Piercing defense is only marginally useful, as the only real source of piercing damage in dungeons is from spike traps and thornbushes.

2. Shield defenses are independant of your characters armor. And a shields defense only applies when the shield is in active use, I.E if you're not guarding, you don't get the defensive bonus.

3. You need high Normal and Elemental defense for Tier 3, especially for Firestorm Citadel; Vog Cub armor covers this nicely. Having Shadow defense is a bonus but is not a necessity to survival, but if you can get a little on a trinket, it does help. Ignore Piercing defense.

4. No, shield defenses are only in effect when you're actively guarding. The good side to this is that your defenses are taken into account while guarding even if your shield breaks, so if you're guarding and your bubble is gone, you'll still take reduced damage depending on your shields defenses. This could save your life at some point.

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 13:03
#2
Pupu
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Hm

1. Depends on the area. But piercing def is pretty useless.
2. They are not related
3. Depends on how good you're at dodging and which areas you're playing
4. Only while guarding

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 13:08
#3
Green-Lantern
The -resists- on shields are

The -resists- on shields are in effect even when you're not blocking, correct?

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 13:13
#4
MeSako
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No.. the resists are only in

No.. the resists are only in effect when guarding.. since you can get a status effect while guarding..
So the resists on a shield helps you prevent getting status effects while guarding.

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 13:35
#5
Datareaper's picture
Datareaper
Im using the Seraphic armor

Im using the Seraphic armor right now, I had no idea angels were so FLAMMABLE.
Also we need more undead stratums.

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 14:04
#6
SimularMine
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So, say I have Volcanic

So, say I have Volcanic Salamander set, plus either Dragon Scale, Omega Shell or, I don't know, Dread Skelly shield would be pretty effective for t3?

And thanks everyone in the thread for the input, I appreciate it~

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 14:29
#7
Foxhound3857
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Generally the two recommended

Generally the two recommended shields for Firestorm Citadel are Omega Shell (very high health and normal defense), or Crest of Almire (high normal/shadow defense with fire resist). Crest of Almire is quite difficult to find these days though; I think only a handful of players even have one, let alone the item needed to make it (Blackened Crest).

Wise Owlite Shield is a good second choice. Provides Normal and Elemental defense as well as Fire resistance (and looks sweet).

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 14:37
#8
tysta
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I'm pretty sure the Crest

I'm pretty sure the Crest isn't obtainable yet.

Volcanic Plate seems to gain popularity, it combines good normal defence, piercing defence, and shield health with fire resist.

Sat, 04/30/2011 - 16:12
#9
Pupu
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Dun dun dun

Ninja Tier: Swiftstrike
Top Tier: Owlite
Mid Tier: Volcanic Plate / Omega
Bottom Tier: Others
Doesn't drop Tier: Almire

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