Spiral Knights - RSS and ISB: A Lockdown bomber's review.

RSS and ISB: A Lockdown bomber's review.

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Wed, 08/08/2012 - 16:29

Sky-Hawk

On a side note: I'll start out by saying I'll miss the old play-style that was kind of unique to these bombs. :/

Now for the review.. :P

The charge time is great. Still the old charge time (and a great change for the ISB). However, Here's where the problems start...

The shards are horribly unable to hit ANYTHING in lockdown. The Stun effect is very nice for the RSS, and ISB finally has a use! But I can barely hit a striker who's standing right next to a shard. They have to be standing on the shard to be damaged at all.

Honestly, the radius of the initial blast should be carried over to each of the shards, because something is offsetting about 8 "deadly" crystals being safe to stand next to when they explode.

Also, the shards in lockdown (much like the old ones) STILL interact with the bomber and teammates. If you stand on the bomb, no shards appear. If you're in a shard's path when it gets shot out, once again, it won't appear. This is a big problem with these bombs in LD and severely hinders them.

Oh and one last thing: thanks for the tickets, but LIMIT them. 300 tickets for the richer players really isn't fair.

RIP RSS. :/

Final Pros and Cons:
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Pros:
Good Charge Time, New Status on RSS, ISB has a good use now.

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Cons:
Too small of a radius, TICKETS, a whole play style is gone.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 16:36

Xairathan

Totally agree here. I'm a recon, a swording one, who carries two guns with me to hold off non-haze bombers with. The RSS used to be my only paranoia. Now, it's a joke. Now, I can waltz in provided I dodge the shards, smack the bomber a good one, and leave happily. If I aim correctly, I can use him as a human shield. Where the old RSS used to have a "get out of here" zone, where you'd get pelted if you stood there, it seems not to be there any longer, as I have survived MULTIPLE times whilst standing TOP the bomb and taking NO damage (Might be a glitch that was mentioned in a previous thread)

tl;dr could use work, eh?

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 16:39

Sky-Hawk

Not nearly as long as some forum posts on the discussion thread. but if you're waltzing through RSS now, that's a major problem for me. D:

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 16:48

Xairathan

@sky

I waltzed through 80% of blasts before. Nothing stopping me now <3

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 16:51

Sky-Hawk

Okay, another note..

These bombs are USELESS in lockdown.
ISB: 1 Shard did 1 bar (in full mad bomber, mind you).

Lesson to be learned here: DON'T USE THESE BOMBS.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 16:53

Serell

"and ISB finally has a use"

No. It sucks way more than before! With the old ISB I could get a consistent 4k damage every match, and shock tons of people! With the new 5* salt bomb, I can't hit anything! It is sooooo easy for them to dodge, and for the first time ever, I got under 2k damage 2 matches in a row with the salt bomb. Spamming the new salt bomb felt so useless and unhelpful to the team... but I did manage to get a few people, when they were distracted by teammates. But here's the thing. The shard bombs were the only thing a bomber had that could fight a Striker Clone solo. Now if you so happen to find yourself alone, you're screwed. I know bombers are mostly for AoE and support, but..

Well, I did a Jelly King run with it, and it wasn't so bad. But my favorite LD troll bomb is gone..

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 17:01

Sky-Hawk

By a new use i meant outside LD. :P

Otherwise in LD it's a total flop.

Scoring 4k damage (at best) a game with them.
Can't combat VT or gunners, this is becoming a nightmare. :/

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 17:55

Wodanct

Makes you wonder why anyone

Makes you wonder why anyone supported the new change besides trying to get personal gain from it.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 18:02

Sky-Hawk

Really not many bombers did.

Most bombers i know were wanting the pain to end quickly, and noone knew (until 10 minutes before the change) that the change would happen. :p Honestly, this is an unsupportable change.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 18:05

Michaelb

I agree with Serell. As a striker and recon bomber who wielded both previous shard bombs I'm pretty much deprived of any sort of defense against clones. I mean, I got freakin' 11k damage with only ISB and RSS and now I'm stuck at 2k max. The whole class in LD is totally underpowered now! In the interest of the 4% of LD that wasn't already broken I, and maybe others, ask that OOO lower the power of other classes.

Thu, 08/09/2012 - 12:00

#10

Sky-Hawk

RIP RSS

I maxed 11k damage with the old RSS, but now i max about 4k damage.. how? >.>

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 14:29

#11

Sky-Hawk

Well, doing some more testing of these bombs..

I'm noticing a glimmer of hope out of the gloomy cave that is the new RSS...

New Strategy: Mine-field Nightmare: Setting the bombs in such succession that noone knows when or where an explosion will occur.
Statuses are relatively OP.

It's still an okay bomb, but here's what i'm still seeing NEEDS to be done:
Damage buff (current damage does maybe 1/4 the old damage)
Range Buff on the 2nd stage of the bomb: Right now people need to be touching shards to be hurt. Make the radius a bit more fair.

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 14:33

#12

Dancinjen

I haven't gone into lockdown

I haven't gone into lockdown with these yet. I'm going to upgrade a few of them to five star first before i try. I can imagine if they get rid of the control point bug about the shards disappearing, this bomb might be able to have some sort of .... use in a larger lockdown match.

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RSS and ISB: A Lockdown bomber's review.