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So is the Antigua line no longer useless?

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Fri, 08/17/2012 - 17:21
Chalez's picture
Chalez

I haven't played for quite awhile (last update I remember was energy blasts)

Can anyone fill me in on the major changes that have happened since then? I've been doing these "mission" things a lot... it's a little confusing.

However, my main question is this:
I remember that the Antigua guns used to do split damage, making it for the most part pointless to get them. Now it seems as though they don't? Are they good now? Are they worth investing in?

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 17:42
#1
Sol-Xii's picture
Sol-Xii
Antigua Line

Yes, yes they are good now, regardless of the suicidal charge attack.

AP would make a good investment as a sidearm for swordies and bombers for their mobility, and to handle turrets. For Gunslingers, AP is a poor source of damage compared to the Drivers b/c of their ricochet. AP is great for single targets, and Nova lets you handle groups with ease if one uses the ricochet properly especially by spamming the Driver charge.

Sentenza, on the other hand, is a viable gun for all. Its bullets are fast and can snipe down menders easily. Its pure shadow lets it also be useful against slimes. Again, it provides mobility; but unlike AP/Nova relationship, it may be on par with Umbra Driver IMO.

To sum it up:

Swordies and Bombers: AP and Sentenza, great for turret and mender killing.
Gunslingers: For AP; consider Drivers instead. For Sent; a good gun to use against gremlins and slimes.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 18:04
#2
Chalez's picture
Chalez
i would love a sentenza

i would love a sentenza

also whats the easiest (or cheapest) way to get a base antigua?

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 18:07
#3
Yukarie's picture
Yukarie
Run jelly king 7 times. Not

Run jelly king 7 times. Not joking. Alternatively, earn 700ish CE and ask someone to unbind one, though tbh, the jelly king route is probably better?

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 18:18
#4
Chalez's picture
Chalez
i wish running 7 jelly kings

i wish running 7 jelly kings was as easy as you make it sound like... i only have 1 tier 3 (tsb) and i havent even made it there yet :(

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 18:41
#5
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Heh

Friend me in game and if you can catch me while I'm not busy, I'll carry you through jelly king a few dozen times.

Fri, 08/17/2012 - 18:45
#6
Chalez's picture
Chalez
that would be great ;p

that would be great ;p

Sat, 08/18/2012 - 11:27
#7
Frostycrypton's picture
Frostycrypton
Antigua choices

If ur like me,you will want to work up to being the master of a certain boss,for me,its the jelly king.I have had an antigua line gun fir as long as i can remember,and i made it into a blackhawk later,and currently,i have a sentenza with an acheron,full seto of royal jelly armor,and a polaris,which allows me to solo the royal jelly palace without dying.However,if ur interested in the Argent Peacemaker,you might want to get shadow or elemental armor,(depending on if u want to have a better chance living in fsc or imf).Therefore,use the shadow armor for fsc and elemental for imf.I am also a HUGE fan of speed,so thats y i use a mask of seerus with a sentenza,a vitasuit deluxe,a polaris,a striker,and a swiftstrike buckler.All in all,the antigua line is great.

Sat, 08/18/2012 - 12:10
#8
Trying's picture
Trying

Antiguas were never useless.

Sat, 08/18/2012 - 16:05
#9
Sol-Xii's picture
Sol-Xii
Well, yeah :P

But now they're more useful than they were before. It was difficult finding gremlins and beasts together to make Sentenza useful pre-patch.

Sat, 08/18/2012 - 23:31
#10
Nightscloud's picture
Nightscloud
AP vs-(and) Drivers

I had an AP before I got my nova driver. I used this AP alllll the time and it was one of my favourite weapons, it is especially GREAT for soloing. (keep in mind this is in FSC) I decided to get a nova driver, this driver does more damage than the status drivers because it doesn't cause a status. As I am a gunslinger-(only in FSC) I have CTR max. DMG VH and ASI max on my guns. Nova charges at the speed of light, does a ton of damage and reloads really quickly. This means that a nova driver charge will kill a puppy gun in a single shot Owo. The only disappointment in the drivers is that they reload only after 2 shots so ASI is a must on it. Anyway back to the AP, the AP is a very quick gun as you know and reloads very quickly, so therefor it is an easier gun to use than the drivers but I highly recommend the AP to any swordsman or gunslinger (not a bomber because a bomber should have a sword to help them, not a gun)
Overall the AP is a must, and only get a driver if you are a gunslinger, it can be hard to shield cancel with a driver.

Thanks for ignoring the whole post and skipping it ;D
Or reading it...
Thanks,
Dark~

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 01:14
#11
Trabias's picture
Trabias
AP used to be good against

AP used to be good against vana , now since its pure elemental it does way less damage D:
I miss the old AP ;n;

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:07
#12
Krakob's picture
Krakob
Maybe it's because the VH vs

Maybe it's because the VH vs Undead I have on my AP but I find it to deal great damage vs undead. Of course, it's nowhere near Polaris in terms of dealing with crowds, bot offensively and defennsively. I wish they were split though. It's a shame OOO often choose to abandon split damage in favour of the boring stuff.

The reason I would prefer split?
For the glory of Sa- I mean, uh...
I guess Sentenza wouldn't be very useful that way. Beasts dodge. So do gremlins. AP, however, would deal with Undead and Fiends, making it ideal for FSC. It wouldn't be optimal for Trojans(Blitz) and Devilites(dodge) but it would be neat for so many things. Including the Duck himself.

Mon, 08/20/2012 - 17:35
#13
Chalez's picture
Chalez
So what would be better- the

So what would be better- the Sentenza or the Argent Peacemaker?

The only thing I was thinking is that rather than being a swordsman, gunner, bomber, tank, whatever, I usually solo missions so I try to have a sword and a gun at all times...

Anyway, in general it seems as though most guns do elemental damage and most swords do piercing or elemental so I think the Sentenza would be the best investment simply because it is one of the few weapons in the game that actually does Shadow damage.

Mon, 08/20/2012 - 20:59
#14
Bopp's picture
Bopp
obligatory

My sword guide is written for people like you. Start with the "Basic Concepts" and "Mixing Weapon Types" sections, and then you can plan your specific purchases. Hint: It all comes down to damage type, and AP and Sentenza are of different damage types, so not comparable.

Mon, 08/20/2012 - 21:26
#15
Chalez's picture
Chalez
@bopp

its interesting that you would suggest a sword guide on a gun comparison thread, but I did read it and the main thing I took from it was that not only is shadow very uncommon as a damage type but it's also not very useful so ap it is.

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