Aye; it makes it a pain to know whether you're wasting your time in the queue or not.

I tried just looking through Spectate matches to see how many T1/2/3 matches were going on, but apparently the thing lies, and says taht most of the matches are T1, even when full of 5* T3 players teethpickin' it up.

The reason why there aren't many people in T1 LD , is because people get to T2 rather fast, and the game isn't bringing in players fast enough for a good T1 population. So the only real players that play T1 LD are people that have already reached T3 and are bored of T3 LD. Which further discourages real T1 people to do T1 LD, because it's full of pro's who know what they're doing. Also, the entrey fee is quite costly for beginners.

Please refrain from saying something is 'silly' in a thread which is targeted at people who actually like what the subject of the conversation is about. It won't end well.

I would have to agree to a certain extent though, Guardians take FOREVER to kill. But think about it for a second. A defensive class which actually lives longer than the other classes..... Makes sense.
Anyway all tiers have their flaws. Let us steer away from T2 though since this is a T1 thread. We don't want any arguments.

Unfortunately to my knowledge no GvG T1 games have happened yet, but I have played a bit of T1 since posting in that thread. The only thing T1 is missing is people. That's all, it's easy to get into because the gear requirements aren't steep and if you can look past battles taking a while instead of ending in 10 seconds or less then it's a ton of fun.

A lot of people do whine about hammers though. And yes, they WHINE about it. It's a ridiculous excuse to not play T1, yes people use hammers but people use hammers in every tier, 'Oh but Weege it just totally unbalances the games in tier one' bull[chips]. That is not true. To a certain extent it helps people who aren't that great hold their own and can allow a person who knows what they're doing, deal out a lot of damage but unbalances a whole game? HA! I would say that Bombs are worse than hammers. Heck bombs are the way I counter hammers. Tier 1 games are about strategy > All out force, if you can't beat somebody, go to another point, cause a distraction. WORK WITH YOUR TEAM. Lockdown is a team game. Yes hammers are annoying but to use them as an excuse is pathetic.
Sorry if I offend anyone with saying that.

Rogue will usually have a T1 team online if anyone ever wants a GvG game, we're a friendly bunch and some of us older T1 players are definitely willing to help any new T1 players out whether that means gear recommendations to sharing strategies etc. Other guilds like The Knights Watch are quite active in T1 too.

The only thing tier one needs is people to get their head out of the fast lane and slow down to realize that longer battles are more intense, more skill oriented and, in my opinion, more fun.

~The Mighty Cheese Knight; WeeGee

I've never really understood why people use hammers as the reason why people don't play LD of whatever tier. After hearing all the rage about how OP it is and how much it unbalances things and whatnot, there certainly aren't as many hammerers in any one game as you'd expect.

I don't do T3, but in T2 I think the most number of hammer users I've ever seen in one game (if I see any) is two, or maybe three, and half those people switch weapons so they're not even using the hammer the entire match anyway.

And in T1, I see hammer even less. You might get one hammerer, if you get any at all, and I've set up plenty of T1 LD matches in my time. It takes a bit of work - and a lot of haven jumping and advertising in Zone chat - but it's not actually that hard to do.

Galidyn makes a good point though. Us T1 hardcores do indeed make it harder for newer LD players to have fun there..

Some people think its less prestigious than T3 Lockdown xD

Well, I think another problem is that a surprising amount of people don't know how to equip the equipment, with loadouts and all. I have had to guide some people through this process who were interested in trying it out, but didn't know how to get in. But almost everyone who has tried it, do thoroughly enjoy it.

Firstly I have some questions,

Who is this "Jempire"?
I've seen a couple of their players but how exactly are they any good?

I don't see hammers as a problem.
Maybe this is because I own one but to tell you the truth I spend most of my tier 1 LD games decked out in guardian and cold snapping anyone who gets in my way! :)

Also, as (secondary) guild master of the Beta squad I will try my best to assemble a team!

So it's Jempire now? Boswick must be pleased to finally receive a reprieve.

from what I've seen the ones that primarily use hammers are the ones trying out T1 but sold all the 1* mission-obtained equipment, so the hammer ends up being the only 1* thing they have left since you can't get rid of it.

When it's mostly regulars they often agree in advance not to use them so maybe that's why you aren't seeing them too much Miat...

Personally I don't see many R. Hammers. At most I see, what, maybe three in one 4v4 match, and of course they're not all on the same team. Heck, most people don't really use their R. Hammers. And some people who do simply make themselves more vulnerable by using them spam-ably. So yeah, R. Hammers aren't that great a reason to stop.

Actually, most people I know don't bother to queue for T1 LD simply because of the long wait... which causes it to have a long wait. Ha ha.