Spiral Knights - Going For Tier 3 Help.

Going For Tier 3 Help.

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Wed, 10/31/2012 - 07:25

Ziadahmed-Knight

Hello i am nearly new to game but i know everything that i need i am a gunner using only guns i am in tier 2 my armor and shield and helmet now are 3* and i got toxic needle 3* and cryotech 3* for my weapons.

For the incoming missions i will need some help so i must be tier 3 i am gonna craft so i need much cr to buy ce as for every item i need 400 ce, what do u think is the best way to get much cr for this and what weapons do u recommend for tier 3 incoming missions. when i looked at AH i found out that 4* equpiment are really expensive for like 200-300k so i cant either buy it from AH i will just have to craft it as it will take like 50k for the 1 item or so.

I know that jelly king is a good way for making cr but finding 2 mates that dosent leave die too much is not easy either and i mostly end up wasting 10-20 ce cuz my mates left , I cant solo it either with this lvl , so is there any other ways of making cr? i made snarb boss runs but i found it not worth it 30 ce for 2500 cr or so.

I am thinking of buying elemental guns so what elements are the best to the incoming missions and what can i do with my equipment as to unbind them i need too much ce , and no i am not gonna use cryotech and toxic so i dont want to upgrade them for tier 3 so any help will be appreciated.

Ty.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 07:41

Golgomath

You are tier 2, there is no

You are tier 2, there is no tier 4. Tier 2 ends at 3*, for 4* and 5* it is tier 3. In tier 2, the best way to farm crowns is through either the JK or IMF. Don't buy t3 gear, craft your own. Its cheaper. Don't get gear based on missions unless they are boss missions, it doesn't pay off in the end.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 07:46

Ziadahmed-Knight

IMF

I didnt try IMF yet can i solo it? and does it give much crowns to cover its ce?

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 07:51

Bopp

tier or star?

I think you're talking about 4-star equipment (out of 5 stars), not Tier-4 equipment (out of 3 tiers).

so i need much cr to buy ce as for every item i need 400 ce, what do u think is the best way to get much cr

Just read through the first page or two of the New Recruits forum, and you will find many threads on how to earn crowns. Yes, the Royal Jelly Palace is a good way for a Tier-2 player to make money. Unless you have an elevator pass or want the Jelly Gems, skip the boss fight. Just do the first two levels. The money you earn from the boss fight does not really pay for the energy you've spent on the elevator.

when i looked at AH i found out that 4* equpiment are really expensive for like 200-300k

They're expensive because an unbinding fee is hidden inside them. If you are trying to save money, never buy 4-star or 5-star equipment from another player. Instead, buy 3-star equipment and upgrade it yourself from there.

I am thinking of buying elemental guns so what elements are the best to the incoming missions

There is no single answer. Usually, you want two guns, of two different non-normal damage types: piercing, elemental, or shadow. That's what you are currently working on: a piercing gun and an elemental gun. I can't advise you on how to switch, because I don't understand why you want to switch.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 07:57

Ziadahmed-Knight

first 2 levels of jk

@bopp

can i solo the first 2 levels of jk with tier 2?

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 08:05

Bopp

tier or star?

Ziadahmed-Knight, if you have practiced those levels enough, you can solo them in any gear. But I don't know how much you've practiced them. And you don't have a shadow weapon, which would make the Royal Jelly Palace easier. Why not try to solo the first level, and see how it goes?

When talking about gear, please rate it using star levels (0-star, 1-star, 2-star, 3-star, 4-star, or 5-star) rather than tiers (Tier-1, Tier-2, or Tier-3). For example, 4-star and 5-star items are both "Tier-3", but there is a huge difference between them. So please just use stars.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 08:16

Ziadahmed-Knight

i will try to solo first

i will try to solo first level now

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 08:49

Ziadahmed-Knight

the first one was easy but

the first one was easy but second one could only do first 2 keys , third key i died :/ but i think after some hard training i can do it

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 09:40

Bopp

RJP four key rooms

In the second level of RJP, the keys come in four side-rooms. The southwest one is the easiest, followed by the northwest one.

In the northeast room, try to circle through the eastern half of the room, without waking the gun puppies. You can do this by walking over the spikes that are down. The timing is not difficult, once you get over your natural fear of walking on spikes. Using the spikes in this way gives you much more room to maneuver and kite the monsters.

The southeast room is probably easiest if you're solo, because you can kite in a small area without disruption from teammates. Kill all of the monsters in the center of the room (except for the two mini jellies that always respawn). Then open up the corners one by one.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:05

Ziadahmed-Knight

@bopp , Yea i did southwest

@bopp , Yea i did southwest first then northwest second but the northeast one was tough and i died but still i am gonna try the strategy u said

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:08

#10

Ziadahmed-Knight

ah, also i want to ask how

ah, also i want to ask how much is the 4 star recipes and where are they usually sold either than AH

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:27

#11

Bopp

wiki

how much is the 4 star recipes and where are they usually sold either than AH

We have a wiki, where you can learn all about details of the game like this.

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Recipe

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 11:55

#12

Ziadahmed-Knight

Does IMF give more gold than

Does IMF give more gold than jk?

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:00

#13

Bopp

read those threads

I guess that they give about the same, but if you read the "how to earn crowns" threads that I mentioned earlier, you can get a better answer.

You see, Ziadahmed-Knight, many people have asked these same questions. By searching the forums and wiki, you can get immediate answers to such questions.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:29

#14

Ziadahmed-Knight

I actually read them all and

I actually read them all and searched but all said jk so i asked if there is something else and is IMF hard? or easier than jk?

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 12:43

#15

Bopp

IMF is more of a puzzle than RJP is

RJP is pretty straightforward: Kill the monsters. (In the olden days, the Royal Jelly fight itself was much harder than it is now, so killing the monsters was not so easy.)

IMF was added to the game long after RJP was, and IMF is more interesting, because it's more of a puzzle. IMF is loaded with traps that you have to maneuver around. IMF is loaded with switches that you have to hit at the right moment, to make the monsters die or to otherwise progress through the level.

I don't know which will be harder for you. Try them out yourself.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 15:25

#16

Ziadahmed-Knight

Ok thanks for help and when i

Ok thanks for help and when i have any other questions i will tell u thx again

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 16:11

#17

Bopp

no problem

You're welcome. Enjoy the game.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 16:24

#18

Poopsie

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Gonna say gunner setup is not friendly for beginners.
Sometimes if you can figure out to sell boss items with a profit, you might want to keep going to Jelly King Boss.
Also, IMF is not gunner friendly environment especially with alchemers. Still doable but you just need to be more cautious.
Just in case you didn't know yet, try to practice shoot without spamming the last bullet that triggers reload animation (1 shot for alchemer) then stop for a while, then shoot again. Ideally, when you master it, you never do a reload animation at all. While doing that, try to move around, not standing at one same place.

If you're good at punching buttons, try switch + shield cancel.
On alchemer example, you do like... shoot -> hold shield -> switch another weapon (using weapon 2 shortcut) -> switch back to alchemer (using weapon 1 shortcut) -> release shield -> shoot -> repeat. It seems a long process when you type it, but you could this one cycle of steps in less than one seconds.
If you have two gun that are spammable, you can just do one switch so you shoot two different kinds of bullet each time.
Eh also, you can actually ignore the hold and release shield part if you know how to spam with switching only.

Meh, just see these videos I guess
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9jl5FFKG84
and this guy is a beast because he can move freely while doing switching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbC4QI81Kxo

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Going For Tier 3 Help.