Spiral Knights - PLAY TIER ONE LOCKDOWN!!!

PLAY TIER ONE LOCKDOWN!!!

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Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:21

Zephyrgon

People are always complaining about lockdown being unbalanced and what not. Let me tell you this: the most balanced lockdown there is is Tier one lockdown! Why? Here are some reasons:

1) There are only two types of damage. Most weapons deal normal damage whereas some deal elemental. That's it.

2) The weapons and armor are cheap. Put those weapons you got from Tier one missions to good use. You don't even need heart trinkets to pack a punch!

3) Damage is pretty low. You don't just get two-shotted in this lockdown tier.

4) Striker's aren't that powerful. The -3 health reduction in this tier is very substantial actually.

5) Bombs are incredibly powerful. I found out that T1 bombs have more damage than swords or guns. FYI bombs are incredibly awesome at countering strikers.

Those are just some reasons to play T1 lockdown! I would like to see higher turnouts so that there won't be much wait to queue in for this awesome game!

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:24

Oatmonster

Lick

You forgot to mention that hammers counter almost almost all of those points.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:28

Zephyrgon

So what?

I had no elemental resist and that hammer can't two-shot me. It did sink my health a lot though...

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 20:46

Darkbrady

You also forgot to mention

You also forgot to mention that people can still walk in with UVd gear, which is partly the reason that T3 is so unbalanced; people can UV stats to counter problems. vh asi, for example.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 21:02

Zephyrgon

Well that's not true

If you did the missions and did not throw out your mission rewards, you will have really nice UVd gear.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 21:03

Oatmonster

Lick

An ASI VH hammer makes you almost untouchable, even when compared to the ASI High HH you get from the missions.

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 21:04

Darkbrady

And T3 players can easily

And T3 players can easily bring in more UVd gear. Just pointin' out that it is a factor. The mission rewards having UVs on them were partially to counter this imbalance, as premissions, veteran players would just walk in and dominate T1. Hell, I'd walk in with +0 gear, non-UVd gear and have 20x the damage anyone else did...imagine I was decked to the teeth in UVs? And I suck at LD o_o

Wed, 10/31/2012 - 23:59

Weegeeftws

.......

I think it's about time these posts stop being made. I love T1 LD but it's a stalemate people. Stick to one friggin thread for crying out loud, all points made in this thread have been made in other threads.

I also find using the hammer as an excuse to not play T1 or even say it's unbalanced is pathetic. It's not hard to counter a Hammer.

~The Mighty Cheese Knight; WeeGee

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 00:01

Darkbrady

I'm not at all sayin' it's

I'm not at all sayin' it's unbalanced; definitely the most balanced tier for LD. Idc about hammers, but I know that a large number of veterans and UV hoors do sook up high scores off of legit T1 players and "unbalance" it in their own way.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 00:55

Dr-Storm

I want to play but...

But...it seems like no one wanna play t1 ld when I want to play lock down...Y_Y

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 01:18

#10

Darkbrady

^ S'the main reason I don't,

^ S'the main reason I don't, either. It may be more balanced, but in the time it takes me to wait to get a game I may never get (since the listsings don't differentiate between tiers for queues) I'd rather just play T3.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 06:38

#11

Fehzor

This reminds me of the situation we were in a few months ago-

"We need more of a challenge because FSC is awful in x ways!"
"If you need more of a challenge, just run everything in proto gear!"

Versus what we have today-

"We need balance in Lockdown because it is awful in x ways!"
"If you want balance, play T1 lockdown!"

And in both cases, the response was/will inevitably be-

"We shouldn't have to subjugate ourselves to playing T1/in proto to provide ourselves with balance/a challenge!"

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 06:52

#12

Zephyrgon

Well

You guys are too negative about this. The point of the thread is to have more people play T1 lockdown. So what if you don't have a hammer? Hammers aren't that bad.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 07:04

#13

Canine-Vladmir

Well

Im with Zephyrgon on this one. I do want to play T1 LD.
if any of you has had the chance to meet me in T3LD, you will notice i am dreadfully bored.
Heck, i was using a Wrench Wand and Divine Set Striker Kit yesterday. Then i went weaponless for a few matches.

Problem is....i haven't joined a T1 match yet. my waiting time in queue is too long.
I do not know when people are on the most to enjoy T1.

Besides if hammer is the issue here. thats good news. in T2 or T3 there is more than just one hammer that is the problem. Besides, ever heard of insulting hammer spammer Users?

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 07:42

#14

Bella-Donna

Teir 1 LD

It takes too long to get a game...

and here is the over view of T1 LD

All the weapons deal normal or elemental.

they all inflict
Fire
Stun
Shock
Freeze

Seerus mask proctects the most so slap an uv against stun and freeze and you have the perfect T1 defensive helm

add in the hammer (only half of their armor protects against it. while the others are split.)

then maybe a sword damage bonus armor like fencing gear, or a split protection armor and your good.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 07:42

#15

Dr-Storm

Hammer huh?

Hammer are slow...counter is with fast weapon...preferably ranged one...and besides if you have used to the hammer movement...it is pretty darn easy to dodge...like the polaris spam ...:P

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 08:03

#16

Bella-Donna

about hammers

hammers are great if you know how to use them, just like GF or Final flourish or any other weapon. In fact it's DPS can be the highest of all the swords.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 08:04

#17

Snorunt

I keep seeing T1 LD threads and logging in to the game hoping to catch a match. I mean with all this concern, there ought to be enough people for a few 4v4 matches at least, right?
Your Lockdown game has been delayed. Waiting for more players...
Oh.

Anyway.
R. Hammers aren't really that big an issue. Don't misunderstand me, I know they're horribly OP and Hal to dodge, but they've never been such a huge obstacle that it was impossible to kill/survive someone who had one. Excluding people who had ASI High+ UVs on them, but I've only seen a handful of those people. Most of the ones that I knew who had those, quit.

Thu, 11/01/2012 - 20:06

#18

Zephyrgon

Yep

The only way to counter hammers is from afar. If you fight someone with a hammer in close range, then you're dead meat.

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