Spiral Knights - Bts vs dss.

Bts vs dss.

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Thu, 11/08/2012 - 17:16

Kuruga

Sorry if this is a already answer question but i'm serious about it.
What so good about bts?Is it about the damage sword bonus(medium)? or just to fit the full snarby set?
And in overall,dss had better piercing and elemental resistant than a bts piercing but why dss so rare?O.O" i rarely see anyone use it though,while bts..haha everyone use it,way too common as da.

So what do you prefer?i'm thinking getting dss first then went to bts because the recipe is hard to get while dss got better resist overall.

Edit: And do you prefer using dss in fsc using blitz,da,ff and ap. Is is a good setup?xD haha not a great gunner though. or should i replace any of them with shivermist?

Thu, 11/08/2012 - 18:32

Glacies

I assume you're talking about

I assume you're talking about Dragon Scale Shield and not Dread Skelly Shield.

People use Barbarous Thorn Shield due to the Damage Bonus: Sword Medium increase rather that the resistance it has as most enemies' attacks are EXTREMELY easy to dodge. Much like people use Swiftstrike Buckler in Tier 3 due to the Attack Speed Increase: High.

I mean if you're going to use a shield you might as well get a bonus to go with it, right?

Thu, 11/08/2012 - 21:46

Bopp

right

Barbarous Thorn Shield is beloved because of its damage bonus. You might try my sword guide for more detail.

Dread Skelly Shield is a fine shield, although most people end up with Crest of Almire instead.

Dragon Scale Shield is a terrible shield in most situations, due to the lack of normal protection. It is excellent in Compound 42, however.

I don't understand your "edit" question. For one thing, you'd have to clarify what you mean by "DSS".

Thu, 11/08/2012 - 23:30

Kuruga

Ah..O.O".

Yeah,i was talking about dragon scale shield.
So it's wasn't worth to get but will it do good in fsc?Or should i just went for a bts?
Yeah,i'm more a shield player,i like to shield.

And about my "edit" question.
Sorry i made it confused hehe.

I was thinking of using dss,da,ff,ap,skolver,blitz for a fsc and vana run set up but will it does good?
Or should i replace dss with other shield?And should i replace my ff with a shivermist?

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 06:48

Bopp

no, not well in FSC

In FSC, there is a lot of elemental and shadow damage, but there is also tons of normal damage: Vanaduke's mace, slag guards, and trojans. Dragon Scale Shield is perhaps the worst shield for FSC.

If you really want a defensive shield, then get something like Grey Owlite. Normal, elemental, fire, and shock are great things to protect against. Others would be shadow and freeze. So consider Dread Skelly too.

You're proposing this FSC loadout:
* Dragon Scale Shield: terrible
* Skolver: great offensive bonuses, but bad defense (see the sword guide I linked)
* DA, FF, AP, Blitz: all great weapons for FSC
If your party is like most parties, it will want to have one Shivermist Buster and at least one Blitz Needle. You don't need to have both on any one person, but if you carry both, then you are more versatile, and it's easier to form a party with other people who have one or the other. When I play solo, I like to kill trojans (and silkwings and beasts) using FF. But in a party you'll probably use your Blitz instead. So the FF is not super-important.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 16:42

Little-Juances

You can learn to just dodge enmy attacks, making any defenses redudnant, whereas offensive bonuses always help.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 17:13

Kuruga

Great info.

Thanks bopp,luckily i haven't bought drake scale shield yet x)..
I know grey owlite is a great shield for fsc but it's too common..

Ok,i see.
Dss is terrible in fsc xD,but i like skolver in term of vog cub because i like offensive than defensive.Well,i usually use brandish(voltedge) charge at those zombie then shield right away to avoid hit but sometimes vsing gun puppy i'll use SC.
But what shield can be decent in every terminal including jk,snarby,twins and vana?If there wasn't a shield like this..i would go hybrid then
Snarby,jk=bts.Twins vana=grey owlite?maybe..way too common but if it's good then i'll use it.

I rarely dodge as it never worked against my lag sometimes..well you know those spike lag..will ruin your dodging.So i shield more than dodging and shield is more important to me instead of gear.

Fri, 11/09/2012 - 17:38

Bopp

no all-around shield

There is no all-around shield. For defensive purposes, most players would say that you want a piercing shield (e.g. BTS), an elemental shield (e.g. Grey Owlite), and a shadow shield (e.g. Crest of Almire). On any given level, you use the one that seems most relevant to the enemy's damage. In some situations, such as the Vanaduke fight itself, you might want a pure normal shield such as Volcanic Plate, but that would be a low priority. If you're not concerned about defense (because you're a gunner or just awesome), the you'd consider Swiftstrike Buckler.

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