Read my post again.

I didn't say it was good.

I didn't say I liked it.

I didn't say I would agree if they put it out in the auction house. Yes it would devalue them. Upgrading would devalue them, too, just in a different way.

I'm just saying it wouldn't bother me just because of what in particular it is.

Now, for the principal (principle?) of the thing is that THAT would upset me. I agree that it is for rewarding players that have been here longer. Diabound explains that perfectly. You want to know my thoughts exactly on it... refer to dia's post.

But you're taking my post and picking it apart and putting your own meaning to it. What you are saying that i'm saying is NOT what i'm saying. It's a novelty item not a weapon, that you can get as a leviathan. But people are mad because they don't get a five star weapon... or it looks cooler than the leviathan.

I don't want to see it given out anywhere. But... the fact of the matter is it just might be put up every now and then in the auction house. once again... I DON'T LIKE IT. But i'm not going to come to the forums and whine and gripe about it. It is what it is.

the Flak Jacket is virtually inaccessible outside of the Hallow version.

Flak Jacket, Draped Armor, (*cough* Hybrid *cough) Round Helm and Crescent Helm (*cough* Nose *cough*) and are only available to new players, and the Surge/Hallow gear.
Flak Jacket just seems to be the most popular, because it's the only "new" (*cough* unfurred version of Wolver *cough*) "male" gear.

Sorry, I must have gotten some SpiralSpy in my throat :P

EDIT: Sorry, I have a serious habit of replying to comments at the end of the first page :/

@Hexzyle:
Other than Forum-Brady, who I made expressly for this purpose, I haven't made a new character since long before these updates, so amn't sure exactly what all the new stuff is, and largely ignored the Hallow event (I still have a hundred boxes unopened) but Flak is the one that gets mentioned most commonly. Thanks for adding to that, though

@Corin:
Mmmmmm, wall of text time, just for that! :D

First point: I never said players are "not allowed" to think of them that way. I said that they weren't meant to be thought of that way.
For instance, I can say "You can shove M&Ms up your nose, but you're not meant to". Would you give me a lecture for that, too?

It wasn't an opinion that can be said "no" to. They're rewards, based on rank, as fashions. The fact that you can use them as weapons is largely irrelevant for two reasons: a/ lower tier players will outgrow them very quickly, but still have it as a memento to remind them, and b/ because they chose the (arguably) weakest line of weaponry in the game, so even Vanguards will rarely, if ever, have a real purpose for them.

Yes, you can use them, but no, they're not being handed out as "free weapons" for you to dominate the game with. They don't want you getting thee and having no more need to craft. They're handing these out as token rewards and mementos for players to have; they obviously just decdied that there's enough costumes in the game already and not enough fashion weapons, so chose that instead.

However, way to take my point entirely out of context. I wasn't just saying it as a general "hey, strange person who's gettin' all up in ma' face; ignore your cool new sword!". I'm saying this specifically to people who are uptight about the fact that they're "stuck" with the 4* version. I'm teling them to stop begging for the 5* because they're ignoring the concept of the gift which is, as stated above, not given to them for the sake of giving them free weapons, as it is given to them as a token and memento. This isn't arguable as it is an uncraftable, unpurchasable item based on rank. If they wanted players to treat these items as weapons to be used throughout the game, they would have allowed them to be crafted, so that you could log in, get the sword, use it, advance in rank, upgrade it, use it, advance in rank.

No, you get it, play around with it, advance in rank, get real weapons, look back on it, remember. That's not a "no" comment so get out of my face.

I just wish to clarify my previous statements so I don't get misunderstood with a similar common group.

I only got the four star version of my sword, and to be honest, at first I was dissapointed (majority with myself), since I was one mission away from being a vanguard.
I would love to be able to obtain a five star variant of the blade, however, I do not wish to loose the novelty of such an item either. (since I like to be unique and/or have unique things).
To be honest, I never read much up on the news regarding prestige, so this was a surprise to me (both good and bad).

In the end, I'm just glad OOO is paying recognition to veterans and rewarding them for their devotion to the game. Even if a little.

So I'll leave it with what I said previously in my past comments:
"Is a shame and is a loss, but free gear is free gear." I'll gladly accept any free handouts OOO wishes to give.

~Lil Edit~
I also wish there was a way to showcase my blade without having to actually use it in combat.
But then again, I should also know that a weapon is only as good as the warrior wielding it.

Why there weren't any Honor Nitronome or Honor Valiance. Just a Honor Blade and Honor Shield. OOO really doesn't care about their players. If they cared about their players, they would see that there are quite some people that treat bombs and guns as classes, not just sidearms. But again and again, OOO kicks them in the face and and tells them they're only sidearms, and nothing more.

Because scanning this gives ME a headache, let's stop with the sidetracking about elitism and earning things...

Why should they be upgradable?

Why shouldn't they be upgradable?

You make a fair point, especially given that the "Stellar Set" achievement requires users to have a 5* gun AND a 5* bomb equipped, instead of a sword+gun/sword+bomb combination. :/

sidetracking about elitism and earning things...

I've said nothing about elitism. However, "earning" things is what this entire discussion is about.

Why should they be upgradable?

Why shouldn't they be upgradable?

They "should" be to satiate people who don't like the fact that they feel free stuff isn't good enough.
I've stated numerous times on numerous threads why they shouldn't be, which includes numerous reasons.