Spiral Knights - Why doesn't Three Rings fix crown profit in Spiral Knights?

Why doesn't Three Rings fix crown profit in Spiral Knights?

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Sat, 11/17/2012 - 20:53

Kitty-Softpaws

Why should a boss stratum, which already provides tokens that can get you stuff (token stuff are benefits), provide the most crowns received in the game (crowns are also benefits)? Why doesn't Three Rings make the Arcade the main attraction of the game? Do they not see that players go to where profit is best? Because of this, player activity revolves around boss stratums and boss missions. There are too many missions; missions that contain Arcade content?! It is as if Three Rings WANTS to kill off the Arcade? This community is small, and finding parties are not easy if it is not in a boss stratum/boss mission. I know that players want stuff, be it crowns or tokens or prestige, so, there should be something to look forward in Arcade so that this community will venture more there, and increase social activity for Arcade runs for other players that are new to the game.

It's not like I would have friends who are on 25/7 or friends that WILL be online when I would be online, or for even WANTING to do what I would want. Even if they were real life friends, they too also agree that this game is not for them due to lots of things that it lacks. I know that the Spiral Knights community consists of a specific variety of individuals who have identical values when it comes to gaming, and okay, I won't judge the community on their values. Instead, why not use that to Three Ring's advantage in bringing in more players to the game by making the Arcade more attractable to this community of Spiral Knights?

What I would like to know:
Is Three Rings happy with the way Spiral Knights is being played for? And is the community of this game also happy with how they game on Spiral Knights?

Hector D.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 20:57

Psychodestroyer

My theory:

It's not just boss Strata, it's the second strata. payoff is ALWAYS better in the second strata.

If they made it the first strata, people would just farm that.

Boss Strata probably pay better anyway, so mebbe have them reduced to marginally less than a normal second strata?

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 21:02

Xxpapaya

The papaya comments (yay first =) )

"Why should a boss stratum, which already provides tokens that can get you stuff (token stuff are benefits), provide the most crowns received in the game (crowns are also benefits)"
Because the tokens alone don't provide much at all. If the crown profit was removed from boss missions/levels then not a lot of people would be doing JK and FSC. As for the arcade, well I'm just a bit confused why people want it to be blooming again. To be honest, I don't remember a time when the arcade was crowded, and I've been playing for more than a year...........
"It's not like I would have friends who are on 25/7"
Isn't it 24/7? *shrugs*
Well, if the game isn't their taste then go play something else. Duh

"Is Three Rings happy with the way Spiral Knights is being played for? And is the community of this game also happy with how they game on Spiral Knights?"
Well, that isn't a question for us is it? Go send an email to the GM's or something

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 21:17

Kitty-Softpaws

""Why should a boss stratum,

""Why should a boss stratum, which already provides tokens that can get you stuff (token stuff are benefits), provide the most crowns received in the game (crowns are also benefits)"
Because the tokens alone don't provide much at all. If the crown profit was removed from boss missions/levels then not a lot of people would be doing JK and FSC. As for the arcade, well I'm just a bit confused why people want it to be blooming again. To be honest, I don't remember a time when the arcade was crowded, and I've been playing for more than a year..........."

So, you're content with doing repetitive runs in the boss stratums/boss missions? Okay, I see.

Well, if the game isn't their taste then go play something else. Duh

The game is fine, and the problem isn't the game itself. My friends agreed that they enjoyed the gameplay.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 21:47

Darkbrady

I'd just like to point out

I'd just like to point out that a run of T3 regular arcade pays out about 8~9k, while a run of arcade FSC pays about 9~k.

People flock to FSC not just "because it pays better" but often because they don't realise that it only pays slightly better, and that's not even factoring in time, difficulty, boredom etc.
[Although getting a free 30k every ten runs sure helps...]

Otherwise though, I agree with you. It'd be logical to make the arcade pay out more cr, while boss statums pay out the tokens which lead to rare items and (ultimately, objects to sell for raw cr to make up the difference), so as to keep both worth doing.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 21:45

Thunderbog

I thought this little kitten had left the game.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 22:07

Fehzor

OOO should kill off the arcade further, just because of how many people like it.

@Darkbrady

Lol... FSC does pay a lot more when you factor in the tokens. You make about 2K per level, and then 3K on the boss in tolkiens, for a total of 11K per run.

Compare that to your 9K, which requires more time, energy and effort. 9K over 8 levels compared to 11K over 5 levels (one of which is duke, which goes by way faster than any level), and to top it off, you have to play through half a stratum, hunt for the right levels, and then take risks on finding recipes in the arcade.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 22:21

Darkbrady

which requires more time,

which requires more time, energy and effort

You think a run of FSC is faster, easier and cheaper than a regular start6 run?

Keep in mind that strat5 only pays like 2k; all the money comes from strat6. Of that 8k, 6k of it comes from strat6 alone and most regular levels can be blaster through pretty fast, whereas FSC has a set structure which can't be skipped or sped up. And that "9k over 5 levels" is wrong; I was saying that arcde runs of FSC pay 9k. KoA doesn't pay out that much, as it doesn't have the strat5 payout.

You don't need to "hunt for the right levels" at all. I gave that 8k from just rolling regular levels. Hell, the last arcade run I did included two TVs (which we all know pay less than a regular level) and we still got like 9k from the run. Pretty sure the last few levels were just wolver dens that we skipped half of anyways.

The biggest deciding factor between the two is the tokens; every ten runs getting 30k free is a game-changer. But aside from that, FSC doesn't really have much of an edge over arcade. Especially when you start to factor in the fact that you just get plum bored of FSC and/or want to use different weapons or loadouts.

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 23:41

Good-Spirit

Arcade ftw! I only do FSC for

Arcade ftw!
I only do FSC for heat... the materials you can seel from an average T3 arcade run always wins me more cash then fsc, even with the 30kcr every 10 runs. Danger rooms are more fun anyways - solo turret room ftw!

Sat, 11/17/2012 - 23:53

Njthug

Guys...dont listen 2 him its

Guys...dont listen 2 him its a ghost since he quit the game!!

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 00:35

#10

Thunderbog

HAHAHA THUGGY

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 00:42

#11

Good-Spirit

Never said I quit, just took

Never said I quit, just took a break from LD for like two weeks. Silly nilly.

Origional post
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/66984

I have since cried myself to sleep several nights in a row and then recovered!

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 00:51

#12

Thunderbog

Blu-Blu, we're not talking about ye.

We're talking about the little kitten. :3c

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 01:22

#13

Good-Spirit

Oh my bad! Sorry sometimes

Oh my bad!

Sorry sometimes the world revovles around me, even in other people's posts :p

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 01:23

#14

Good-Spirit

pfft

In fact, it revoves around me so hard sometimes I double post. Ouch

Sun, 11/18/2012 - 01:54

#15

Namealready

Good ol days

I miss the old days when there were no missions. Whenever we went down the arcade, we always met people, made new friends, and had fun. Now, the missions somewhat disrupted that. I think missions are cool, but I really miss the days where you have to start at the beginning to go down to the boss levels. Or when you're just farming cr with bunch of other people. It was really fun. Hopefully they balance the arcade and missions out. :/

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Why doesn't Three Rings fix crown profit in Spiral Knights?