Spiral Knights - A need for an Official Instructions Guide of monsters armors and weapons as another tool in-game of SK (Proposition)

A need for an Official Instructions Guide of monsters armors and weapons as another tool in-game of SK (Proposition)

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Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:08

Aizuh

Monster's Instruction Guide:
I believe players should be able to view the monsters get to know their names the Description, Location, types (Offensively/Defensively) weaknesses and the materials/items dropped by these creatures to also help newer players gain a better understanding of type advantages, easier functioning etc. along with the monsters picture on the side or so. in-game. most games usually would have this. I've seen the stuff on wiki already but it would make sense to have this already implemented in-game from day one.

For the Weapons and Armors Guide:
-Attack advantages
-Abilities given
-Defensive Abilities given aswell

p.s. A guide needed for Trinkets and other unique items that can only be found in-game along with a few of Spiral Knights "need to know" Definitions i.e (CE, CR, Mist, WantToBuy, WantToSell, and other abbr.) i may not know but another more experienced player does

Thank you for you time.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:25

Severage

Vocabulary Assistance.

Guide of monsters: Bestiary.

Guide of armors and weapons: Item Directory

If I'm not mistaken - though I haven't created a new Knight recently, aren't the advantages etc. discussed in the tutorial, along with some of the various monsters?

A guide for abbreviations seems pointless. If you're an experienced MMO player, you know what they stand for. If you're not an experienced MMO player, you'll google them. Having it in-game would save like 15 seconds and would take a bit longer than that to program.

~Sev

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:39

Aizuh

One or more windows will

One or more windows will cause a computer to run slower so its not worth the switch-over, better to keep it in-game. Besides, stop promoting laziness to the devs.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 13:49

Psychodestroyer

...

/sigh

You can handle this Sev, I've had enough of this for a week.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:24

Severage

@Azwar:

Wait, since when does any computer have trouble loading up Google? You can load up Google on Dial-up with a dinosaur in maybe 20 seconds. The SK Client itself would lag more than that.

There are already many sites that have lists of all the MMO abbreviation terms, I just don't see what sense there is in the Devs adding it. If it's not worth taking half a minute of your time to look it up, it's not worth knowing.

"stop promoting laziness to the devs."

lol. Would you rather they release new content or work on already-available resources to put in-game all day?

A Bestiary/Item Directory would be similar, though the GUI would be the reason to have it. It was probably the intention of the Devs to have the Wiki so that they didn't have to add these in though.

@Psycho:

lol. Need a vacation?

~Sev

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:34

Chaosengineer

Even if you can't have a web

Even if you can't have a web browser open while playing this (By the way, i'm a kongregate player, and we literally cannot close our browser while SK is running.), it's pretty easy to just ask people for information you're wondering about in-game.

This is a pretty social game. If someone says they WTS something and you don't know what that stands for, just ask "What does WTS mean?" and someone'll probably tell you.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 20:03

Aizuh

@psycho

@Psycho:
Stay off for a while then. That info was not needed.

@Sev:
That's the point they need more content. This should have been patched before the guild hall update. Honestly, just because its a free new weapon with the same animation will not bring more players to this game or even bring older players back. The Guild hall update got pretty boring very quickly so not much a point to it in my opinion.

@Chaos:
Thanks, I'll remember that next time.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:30

Forum-Brady

Besides, stop promoting

Besides, stop promoting laziness to the devs.

Go google "irony" for me. As a favour?

all the MMO abbreviation terms

Bopp has a list of commonly used SK abbreviations (and generally used abbreviations that are likely to be heard within SK) in the wiki, too~

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:15

Melisan

1 havng one or more windows

1 havng one or more windows open has very little impact on a computer these days...fact
2 when i first started playing and i needed help I alt-tabbed to the wiki or asked someone
3 your idea is redundant
4 having a pop at Psychodestroyer will not make you popular

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:49

Aizuh

rather not

No ty brady

@Melisan first off fix your spelling. there a threat to my thread GOSH...!

why are you even worried about what i'm saying to another player? i should report you for cyber bullying but luckily i'm not.
if my idea is redundant atleast i'm the one putting forth effort into coming up with a few while you are silently scoping and trying to judge others. Be mindful of your own ideas because in virtuality i would do you just as worse don't forget that. Treat others how you want to be treated.

end of discussion.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 16:59

#10

Little-Juances

Some hiperlinks that simply open the wiki on your default browser would save a lot of trouble and will do the job.
Besides weapons advantages are kinda subjective. Thats where talk/user pages come in handy.

Altought tutorial missions do explain about monsters defenses and weaknesses and shows a picture of them.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 17:13

#11

Forum-Brady

No ty brady Hopefully my

No ty brady

Hopefully my point has been made, then.

why are you even worried about what i'm saying to another player?

Because it's generally considered good human nature to care when someone is being "popped at" by others for no good reason. Incidentally, and again ironically:

i should report you for cyber bullying

Need I say more, or do you need me to explain why this is ironic as well? Not to mention the fact that if you did report him for cyber bullying, you likely wouldn't even get a response because GMs tend not to appreciate having their time wasted.

if my idea is redundant atleast i'm the one putting forth effort into coming up with a few

That's great! We need people coming up with ideas to suggest, as the forums would be dead without them. However, the process is also much easier if those people are accepting of criticism and/or changes to the idea, especially when the idea is redundant or just being suggested out of sheer laziness.

Treat others how you want to be treated.

You only have a right to say this if you abide by it yourself. So far, everyone's showing you at least a modicum of respect. In fact, I'll go back to the "irony" line.

first off fix your spelling.
because in virtuality i would do you just as worse don't forget that

Just since I've had to bring it up like thrice, now...
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony
Also relevant:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/grammar

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 17:19

#12

Severage

@Azwar:

Dang, did you just pick on Melisan and entirely dodge his remarks besides his comment about Psycho?

You should be a politician. For real.

"The Guild hall update got pretty boring very quickly so not much a point to it in my opinion."

That statement alone makes me take everything else you say for a grain of salt. The GH Update brought me, as well as other, Veterans back to the game, and has sunk millions of crowns (Millions upon millions) from the system, lowering CE to lows that haven't been seen in months.

To say there's "Not much point in it" is just evidence to your very narrow view.

I would just like to say a couple things...

1): When you click the Gear, under "Help" (I think), it shows a mini-guide, including which types of attacks are powerful and weak on which types of enemies.

2): This would make little to no difference at all in terms of "new content". Arguing that this is necessary because they need new content is invalid.

3): You blow brady off without commenting on him, tell Psycho off for even posting on your topic, and are deliberately flaming Melisan. Who is cyber bullying?

4): As Juances said, Tutorial Missions explain many of these things, so they are not commonly in question unless you can't/don't read.

5): A one-stop robust guide is not the answer for some cases. Sometimes there are many matters of preference to consider, making the forums/Wiki more useful and the guide less useful.

EDIT:

@Brady: Maybe this is relevant too.

~Sev

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 17:28

#13

Melisan

Firstly, I am not "bullying"

Firstly, I am not "bullying" anyone.
Secondly, it is good that you are coming up with ideas, but think them through before submitting them to the harsh scrutiny of this/any forum.
Do not comment on spelling if you cannot use correct grammar/puntuation
"i would do you just as worse" you would do me?? what the hell are you talking about?

Little-Juances if you open the menu and go to help at the bottom of the pop-up are 2 options; one being forums and, the other being wiki both of which open their respective titles - in your default browser - so they have it covered.

Edit: Ah sev, you ninja :)

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 17:32

#14

Severage

rofl.

I never actually picked up on that funky wording.

"I would do you just as as worse".

That's one for the history books.

~Sev

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 19:25

#15

Psychodestroyer

"first off fix your spelling. there a threat to my thread GOSH...!"

"Phyco"

Me: "I've had enough of this for a week."

My point is made. I need not say more.

Thu, 11/22/2012 - 02:24

#16

Hexzyle

@SeverageThe GH Update

@Severage
The GH Update brought me, as well as other, Veterans back to the game
I second this.

@Juances
Some hiperlinks that simply open the wiki on your default browser would save a lot of trouble and will do the job.

Oh my Flandre, someone give this guy a medal!

Owait, it's already implemented. Press F1, or do you need help doing that too?
(not taking a stab at you juances, just facepalming at people in support of this thread)

AMAZING! There's even info listed there about monster weaknesses and resistances! Owow, looks like the Dev's ninja'd you on this one.

@Psychodestroyer

Bye phyco. See you when you get back. :)

Thu, 11/22/2012 - 14:24

#17

Aureate

Processing Thoughts of You Always

...the guild hall update contained multiple massive crown sinks that helped to drop the CE price. By over 2k per hundred, down from over 9k to under 7k. And you're moaning that it wasn't good enough?

Not to mention, the wiki is already available from the F1 Help menu, and contains pretty much all the information a starting player could want. If you don't want to go read it, the tutorial missions contain much of the information needed for getting along in the game.

Also, Psycho is a reasonably well-respected and well-known person in these forums. Insulting the older and more experienced players who have contributed numerous times to the community? Not going to gain you any friends whatsoever. That's not a threat, it's a statement.

Thu, 11/22/2012 - 14:57

#18

Psychodestroyer

"Also, Psycho is a reasonably well-respected and well-known person in these forums"

Quit it guuuuuuuuuuuys....You're gonna give me an egoooo........

Thu, 11/22/2012 - 17:36

#19

Forum-Brady

Psycho is a reasonably

Psycho is a reasonably well-respected

Consider yo'self humbled! :D

Thu, 11/22/2012 - 18:48

#20

Melisan

HA!

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A need for an Official Instructions Guide of monsters armors and weapons as another tool in-game of SK (Proposition)