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Tue, 11/27/2012 - 09:50
Xenonguard's picture
Xenonguard

Spiral Knights Nostalgia Challenge!

The idea of this is to mimic how Spiral Knights was played before Rank Missions were added.

Rules:
1. You are NOT allowed to do any kind of Rank Mission
2. You progress through the game by doing runs down the Arcade.
3. Bosses must be played through the Arcade as well.
4.Rank Missions 1-1 through to 1-4 are allowed as they are necessary to reach Haven.
5. You must start a whole new character if you are going to do this.

You may be thinking "But Neonguard! How will I get my (insert equipment only obtainable by rank mission)? Well, the simple answer is you can't. But they would not have existed before Rank Missions anyway, so it would ruin the point of Nostalgia if you did so. Do not despair however, most items can be obtained through trade, the Auction House and the Bazaar (to a lesser extent).

How to gain access to lower Tiers:
1. When you press P, you will open your progress tab.
2. It will show you the requirements for clearance to the next Tier.
3. Buy or Alchemize the 2* or 4* equipment for T2 and T3 respectively.
4. Go to the Hall of Heroes found in the Garrison in the East of Haven.
5. Talk to Lieutenant Barrus to gain your clearance.
6. ???
7. Profit
Side Note: This is not recommended for people who have not beaten the game "normally" yet.

Tue, 11/27/2012 - 10:31
#1
Schattentag's picture
Schattentag
So basically...

...run the Arcade?

Since this is what I do normally, how is this a challenge? >_>

Tue, 11/27/2012 - 10:46
#2
Lanieu's picture
Lanieu
You mean....I'll have to run

You mean....I'll have to run through 4 depths just to get to FSC? /dies

Tue, 11/27/2012 - 10:50
#3
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
@OP

Good luck.

Tue, 11/27/2012 - 13:31
#4
Xenonguard's picture
Xenonguard
@Hexzyle

This is only a challenge not a change. And besides, this is meant to be done on a whole new character. As in beat the whole game with a NEW character without doing a single rank mission.

Tue, 11/27/2012 - 15:01
#5
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer

But...don't you need to go to the HoH to get Tier access? For each Tier?

Tue, 11/27/2012 - 15:29
#6
Xenonguard's picture
Xenonguard
@Psychodestroyer

This thread was mostly made by theory so all of the information may not be correct, BUT, when you press P it shows the requirements for next tier access and as long as that is fulfilled you should be able to get past the respective Spiral Warden in the Subtowns.

Tue, 11/27/2012 - 15:42
#7
Xcelestialneon's picture
Xcelestialneon
mah name is not special anymore :c

/cry

Tue, 11/27/2012 - 15:47
#8
Ghret's picture
Ghret
Let me TL;DR

!Nostalgia Challenge!

What the-? How the-? What's going on?!
Calm down, it's only a suggestion.
First of all, let me explain what the !Nostalgia Challenge! is. The !Nostalgia Challenge! is where you, in essence, attempt to play Spiral Knights as you did before all this ..."stuff" came to be. To facilitate your !Nostalgic Challenge!, we've provided a few ground Rules.

1) Start a New Character.
[OPTIONAL]
a.) This character can have no Accessories nor the Height or eye Modifiers.
[END OPTIONAL]

2) Only the Rank 1-1 through 1-4 Missions are allowed since they are unavoidable.

3) You may not use any Materials, recipes, weapons and/or other received from these Missions. You may, however, vendor them.

4) Upon reaching Haven you may not access any of the Missions, any of them. Instead you may only use the Arcade for venturing into the Clockworks.

5) The issue of Tier 2/3 validation is solved thusly; get the required equipment, and go to the Hall of Heroes (The one located in the Garrision, NOT from the Missions), there you can receive your validation.

Note: I shall create a new character to see whether it is possible to skip Tier validation from the missions by creating a new character and sending him through the Gauntlet. Stay Tuned!

Tue, 11/27/2012 - 15:55
#9
Sweet-Hope's picture
Sweet-Hope
As far i remember... you need

As far i remember... you need HoH to get access for the next tier. thats one of the things i dont like of missions because they limit players to stay on a Tier until they get the right gear for the next Tier while a year ago... only was matter of the numbers of stars from your gear...

Sat, 12/01/2012 - 09:36
#10
Gwenyvier's picture
Gwenyvier
Upon trying to access with a

Upon trying to access the HoH with a knight that has all 2* gear but has not accessed any HoH missions.

"Well met, (name). This is the Hall of Heroes, where veteran knights come to offer their services to members of our order who have attained the rank of Soldier or higher.

By undertaking more missions, I am confident that one day you will stand among them."

This also implies you would not be able to access Tier 3 without actually doing the 4* HoH Rank Mission. But seeing as I do not have an alt that has T2 access but not T3 I'm not going to test that one.

~Gwen

Tue, 11/27/2012 - 17:55
#11
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

You don't have to access the lower tiers. You can just get someone to invite you... provided that you are able to friend some of your T3 bros, even if you can't party with them.

Tue, 11/27/2012 - 19:50
#12
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
Since the missions were

Since the missions were introduced, all tier access was revoked. You previously could just walk up to the guardian in the subtowns and say "hey, I've got the right star gear, let me through", and voila, he'd unlock the door. But now, he just directs you to Barrus and says "nope, you can't come through here till you do mission X-X and you've reached Blarg rank".

If someone walks through the field, steps on the elevator and then ventures ahead while inviting you with them, you can join them via the "JOIN" button that appears for the duration of them standing within the next level's spawn.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 08:22
#13
Xenonguard's picture
Xenonguard
Garrison

To the best of my knowledge you can access the Hall of Heroes from the Garrison. Whether it changes after you do it once I do not know.
Keep in mind this is just based on theory. This has NOT been tested. However I plan to do so soon.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 19:38
#14
Progin-Oskes's picture
Progin-Oskes
Just a few more rules...

1. You are not allowed to buy recipes from the Hall of Heroes.

2. You are not allowed to use the Arcade tab on the mission pop-up.

P.S. I have officially started the challenge!
P.S.S I also found the game much more fun before the missions.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:01
#15
Schattentag's picture
Schattentag

"P.S.S"
Post script script. okayfaec

Although I did enjoy the game more before the Mission System was released, that's not to say that the Missions are bad. Several of them have wonderfully unique layouts, aesthetics, and challenges.

As I said earlier, I still tend to run the Arcade over missions. I may decide to join in on this thing, but it's unlikely.

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:10
#16
Forum-Brady's picture
Forum-Brady
What about the people whose

What about the people whose current main characters "beat the game normally" and did the missions from start-finish after they came out because there was nothing left to do?

Sounds more like "old school mode" for people who have never tried playing the game as it was pre-missions, as all it's really doing for vets is...well, just remaking their current character o.o'

Wed, 11/28/2012 - 20:33
#17
Clwnbaby's picture
Clwnbaby
Tier access

nvmd

Thu, 11/29/2012 - 11:36
#18
Xenonguard's picture
Xenonguard
Well at least people are

Well at least people are enjoying this challenge. Comment if you find any problems when playing the challenge (tier access, unobtainable stuff etc.)

Fri, 11/30/2012 - 17:29
#19
Progin-Oskes's picture
Progin-Oskes
What a shame.

This challenge cannot work, you need to complete the missions in order to continue onto different tiers. How disappointing.

Sat, 12/01/2012 - 05:03
#20
Xenonguard's picture
Xenonguard
@Panthol

Have you tried visiting the Hall of Heroes through the Garrison?

Sat, 12/01/2012 - 09:38
#21
Gwenyvier's picture
Gwenyvier
"Have you tried visiting the

"Have you tried visiting the Hall of Heroes through the Garrison?"

See my previous post. They entered through the Garrison (as should be obvious since they were in the HoH without having access to the HoH missions) and got denied. Challenge is not completable in how you have the terms set.

~Gwen

Sat, 12/01/2012 - 10:04
#22
Xenonguard's picture
Xenonguard
@Gwenyvier

Is there any way to do it other than doing rank missions?

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 11:15
#23
Il-Corona-Il's picture
Il-Corona-Il
@Neonguard

The Hall of Heroes requires that you are at least Soldier rank before entering (complete all 3-2 missions). So I had to defeat the Snarbolax through Rank Missions before I could get Tier 2 access through the Garrison's Hall of Heroes. When I did go through the Garrison's Hall of Heroes, I received credit for doing the Rank Mission associated with that level of clearance (I think it was Rank 4-1).

I'll try the Tier 3 one when I get the equipment, but I doubt it will work without having gone through more Rank Missions.

Tue, 12/11/2012 - 16:48
#24
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
lol

I just realised something. If you had tier access before the release of the missions, that tier access will not be revoked. I have a Knight in the rescue camp that can still pass through the Moorcroft barrier.

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