I don't agree with allowing weapons to be directly purchased from the supply depot in the first place, much less w/ UVs on top of that.

And not to mention that Punch would just become a hobo if UVs could be bought~

if you dont get what you want then why bother rolling UVS ?

p2w attitude, much?

and who is to say rolling UVS wont still happen

Because why should we pay a set price ad infinitum hoping to get the roll we want when we could just buy exactly what we need anyways? Unless you're stupendously lucky and get the exact roll on your first couple, it will simply not be worth it anymore.
To further this point:
Would you rather buy a set UV off of another player, or try to roll it yourself? Maybe if you have a few million cr to spare, are looking for a vh/max UV and there's none to be found in teh bazaar, fine, but when there're plenty already being sold, and especially if you're livin' on the breadline, you'd rather buy it from a player.

Punch will die overnight if UVs could be purchased directly.

WELL try rolling more crowns then you can understand

Point made on the crown sink~

i do buy gear from other players as its the smart way to get mostly what you want but not as many ppl selling anymore

Point made that you'd never roll, given the chance~

3. punch wouldnt die if you buy directly from him for say 1 UV = 1mCR . 2 UV = 3mCR . 3 UV = 5mCR

Makin' it pretty expensive there, to balance it off by giving enough chance to make rolling still even possibly worth it. Screw dat, just buy from players.

Not to mention that doing this would ruin merchants in a similar way as selling blank 5* weapons when teh supply depot came out, or recipes when HoH came out. More and more things are becoming unsellable and non-merchants like myself don't even bother trying to sell anything anymore, as the UV and acc markets are basically the only things worth selling any more. Buying set UVs would end that completely, or force them to sell under the predetermined price.

Or, if the price was high enough then it wouldn't affect players at all, but also be fairly pointless to implement.

rolled enough already so the crown sink ceases to work in the long run ... so buying from others is preferable

It's people like you that make sure the cr sinks work. If you, and others akin, weren't rolling that much, the economy would be even worse.

also you cant buy what ppl don't have

I did already comment that people with enough money would do it more so it may be worth it to them, but would not only kill the cr sink as a whole, but also have very little effect on poorer players (who make up a large chunk) who wouldn't pay up that much for a set UV.

implementing purchasable UVS isn't pointless ... ppl would buy them

Exactly. People would buy them. Which is the problem for all teh reasons stated above.
Or the pricing balance would be skewed and no one'd buy them, which is what'd make them pointless. Try and read the full paragraph before commenting.

The last time I tried to upgrade my Ascended Calibur to a Leviathan Blade, I got a Voltedge, an Combustor and a Glacius instead. Yay random crafting!

Mbcscp I like your thinking! Logically the next evolutionary step for SK weapons and armors is variant crafting. We are more likely to see this happen than a 6 star or higher weapon or armor upgrade. All things unique ultimately become common overtime. Everyone should have the opportunity to obtain the best UV’s in-game, but unfortunately not everyone can afford to rage craft or roll multiple UV’s at the variant forge. Although I do not agree with buying UV’s because that would be too easy, instead I propose making UV crafting a grind by collecting some new token in the clockwork, turning them in for a ticket that boost your UV’s to the next bonus level.

Love the attitude, Berz. Let's make rare/expensive gear common, so everyone, everywhere can have everything ever.

/sigh, where do I even begin...

Was commenting directly at Berz's post with such words as "common" and "everyone", not your thread in general.

@ForumBrady YES!! lets make rare/expensive gear common, so everyone, everywhere can have everything ever. #SupplyDepot

@Mbcscp there is no sense of achievement if you can just buy UV's, we are already doing it. Punch gives you UV's
on items in exchange for crowns. My idea only suggest upgrading already existing UV's by collecting tokens, turning
them in for a UV boost, this way you earn it, not roll it.

I really don't see the issue with this. As long as it's made appropriately expensive it would still work as a crown sink; someone may be more inclined to several dozens of millions to get a UV directly where as they wouldn't risk rolling for it. You'd have to balance it just right to ensure that it didn't cut into rolling as a sink, but if done right I see no reason this would negatively effect Punch in anymore significant a way than the Featured Auctions did the Accessory market.

1. free market is what OOO decides so in the long run if UV buying becomes available then its apart of the free market

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I'm not even...
Okay, really? No...I'm at a loss for words here.

Let me just say this: a market WITHOUT any person interacting with another person is not a free market. That should be plain enough.

2. just because people would be able to buy UV's doesnt mean people wouldnt roll UV's ... think buying Vs renting

So what you're saying is,

"Just because I'm putting this in the game doesn't mean people would use it."

Yeah, that's a great argument for my side.

3. OOO doesn't care for traders and you would have seen this over time and UV buying will eventually become reality

OOO also doesn't care for cynical players who attack them for no real reason, and who address other players in a condescending manner, aside from changing their names into something offensive.

If this would happen anyway (since you're obviously a medium and you can tell these things), why suggest it?

4. please learn to type my name right for future reference

Random characters aren't the way to go if you find your name being distorted annoying.

FYI: I was typing your name and had to look back like 3 times to see the characters so just decided to throw my hands in the air and let them fall down on the keyboard. Result, apparent.

Anyway...my argument remains, cutting out the middle man is in no case good for the economy. It may optimize someone's spending, but as the economy goes it doesn't do any good. Saying "OOO hates traders" doesn't make any difference and is not even an argument.

My argument also still stands that randomness is in the long term better for the economy than a fixed rate. That should be obvious. Why make it any easier for LD to be flooded with UVs?

@Echoez:

but if done right I see no reason this would negatively effect Punch in anymore significant a way than the Featured Auctions did the Accessory market.

I know you're not new here, Echoez...you should know people complain a lot about those Featured Auctions. Not just about 1 particular thing either.

Also, the Featured Auctions changed the market from Rare to Common and vice-versa. That means that the priorly "common" accessories are probably more expensive, and have a better market. It changed it, but it did not eradicate it. Supply Depot UVs would not change how it works, it would simply remove the need for Punch.

~Sev

There are several problems here. The largest is that this idea has been executed wrong. Getting angry at a disagreement is how to derail a thread and throw the whole thing out. It's very important that you don't do something like that.

This would also kill the economy in more ways then one. Those awesome UVs that took billions of crowns to get are now nothing unless this cost twice that much, but at that rate, who'll buy it? You can already buy the ones you want----from the players. This is already in the game but it comes from other players. There I just solved your problem, no?

I'm sorry to shoot your idea down, all the same, but I don't agree with it. Try another shot, but put a lot of thought into it this time. What will players agree with?