I think this is idiotic and the current system is fine.

People play at their own paces and are fully aware of it. Adding more grinding to a game that is intended to be largely grind-free would be counterintuitive.

I love the fact that I can buy CE and therefore attain gear at a faster pace. As a matter of fact, I would think I'm exactly the kind of client that 3R is looking for.

Being that I have a full time job and a six year old boy to take care of, let alone friends that I hang out with regularly, I have little to no spare time.. but I love to play video games/MMOs.. This means that unfortunately I can't grind for hours a day to fund gear purchases, I don't have time to craft 100 bombs in the hope of getting a UV to equip or sell. As a matter of fact, I have never crafted a single item in game. Instead I buy CE and convert it to gear.

To me (my) time is much more valuable than money, being that I have more of one and less of the other. The current system allows me to keep up with high school/college kids or people with no jobs or kids, I can still enjoy the content that's available while happily having 5* gear with a UV here and there.. and hey, my CE purchases are helping to keep the game free for you, right?

I understand that the current system is in place to make money. I actually think it's the best F2P system I've seen. That said, I'm sick and tired of grouping in T2 with idiots in full 4-5* who still die multiple times per level. If I die once in a T2 run, I consider it a failure. I can only imagine how bad this must be for people in T3.

I know people who have never once bought CE with real money that are in 5-star gear, and still die in T2. Baddies are everywhere, broskeet. Stop pugging if it makes you that angry.

"There should be something that forces the player to do stuff before he can become ZOMG powerful."

So, you want stronger trinkets, then?

If they added a new heat bar/meter, that would balance it for everyone. Balance is the key word here

No it isn't, the key word here is "It's not fair boo boo boo boooooobbbbbbbbbbbboooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo". You're suggesting grind, and that's an awful suggestion.

If people choose to continue playing the game after they get everything, that's great! And, you know what? Most of them do. And if they don't? More money in the company's pockets so the game can keep going.

Once you realize that the people that buy CE essentially keep the servers on and pay for the devs wages while they create new content, you'll understand that instead of trying to chase those people away, you should be thanking them.

If anyone should be angry here it's those that support 3R with purchases, because free players aren't doing their share to keep the game moving forward.

Tell ya what, I won't complain that you aren't pitching in, and you in return can stop complaining about how I obtain my gears. ;)

You know some people just give money, because they like the game, and don't actually need the CE. It's about supporting a product you believe in sometimes. Just a thought.

I must be doing it wrong, then, for spending money to start tracking down all recipes and experimenting with every equipment line. I don't have time to grind for every single one because I have a job that involves a pager.

But I've got my hard-earned money.

At the original post, this game isn't exactly a long game by any means. I'm not in full 5* gear but I've already made it to the core, beaten Jelly King plenty of times (never alone so far but I just suck 8D), made it to vanaduke (didn't get to fight him long because I had to leave), and I've done all this in less than a month, as a free user. I could just quit the game now lol. I just still play because I want to collect more recipes and still see more variants of levels I've yet to see.

Money may make that faster but won't change my addiction to the content. And as stated before all 5* gear won't make you instant win the game, it takes time to develop those skills no matter what. I'll get bored when I feel I've done enough in this game.

Similarly, other paying customers use money to the extent they feel is fair for them. Some do it to avoid the grind. Some do it just to support the game (as buying CE does not mean money if you don't sell it). Let's not forget you can't even get to Tier 3 without running Tier 1 or 2 multiple times (excluding friend invites). And people who work their way through that probably wanna stay at the lower levels for a little while longer to train.

Why does this matter anyway? Never let other people ruin your enjoyment of the game and how you wanna play, pay or not.

I'm a T2 person yet I still go to T1 to grind. Sometimes Im alone, other times Im with one to three other people. I like think in some way Im helpig the newer people to the game as well as getting as many crowns as possible. I use the crowns to get CE and sometimes the cost of the CE is every crown I have. I don't have any outside game rescources to speed...to me this game is not how much RL cash one can spend to get 4 star items...its how much fun you have playing. In my case I doubt having 4 star items would make be a better player and keep me from dieing any less than I do. Its not the items that make the player good, its the player that makes the player good.

If the person is able to buy CE than I dont see why anyone should be complaining. Money from those people is keeping it free for those you can not spend money like myself.

I agree with Jellyfish66. I pay for my CE, but I don't have any 5* gear to speak of. Of course I have to buy the recipes and harvest or buy the ingredients but I still have fun grinding and meeting new players.

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Me, because paying 49.95 during the beta to get at extra 25% was worth it. Especially since I paid what I would be willing to pay long term on a montly fee for this game, in one lump sum. And the whole "A fool and his money are soon parted." thing, not really if the "fool" is well off in life actually...

Also, people realize that in subscription games like WoW, people STILL spend RL money to get stuff, like gold and even fully-geared characters. It's not like anyone is really prevented if they want to skip stuff, no matter what game it is.

And SK needs to be profitable to survive, so we can ALL keep enjoying it. People who buy CE are supporting the game. =)

The grind thing should be just there to give a "feel" of goal in the game. I mean why are people doing dungeons and collect in the first place? To gain stuff from it right? THat's how any games work. They play to progress.

No, no, no, no, and no. I play because the act of playing is fun. I enjoy the old-school dungeon crawl feel with the action overlay and a remarkably complex underlying mechanics. Cool gear and fun costumes is just a bonus. This game does not need a grind. It doesn't need artificial progress limitations. It certainly doesn't need forced goal-setting. I get enough of that in my real life. There's no "finishing" this game. You don't get to Depth 28 or whatever and think "Wellp, that's it. See ya later!"

If you're not playing because the act of running levels is fun for you, then why are you even playing?

"The Grind" is an antiquated idea. Let it go.
This. This right here. This SO MUCH.