As a former GM of a guild filled to the brim with active members... it was an absolute headache to maintain. Trust me, the best guilds are a small coalition of 20-30-ish good friends who know and trust each other.

That being said, the best guilds (IMO) focus more on the players than the guild. Talk to your guildmates, be friendly with them, and generally be helpful to them. That creates guild loyalty. You'd be surprised how far simply saying "Hey Phantomhamachi!" when someone logs on can go towards building loyalty.

When recruiting, don't just randomly send out invites to people meandering around Haven, for that tends to be ignored or get's you a ton of noobs/idiots. Get a few random runs going, start talking to the guys who join, and then (if you find them to be nice people), ask if they would like to join your guild. Be mature, be polite, don't pressure them, and, above all else, don't bribe them.

If someone sticks up their nose at your guild simply because it isn't on par with something like The Jempire, then let them pout off in their arrogance - those aren't the best people to have in a guild in the first place.

You had lost it in the game, and now you've lost it in the forums. Just... STOP. Go back to your physician and request a refill.

I'm not telling you to leave the forums, I'm telling you to stifle it until you've had a chance to calm down.

Given how you're more focused on quantity of members than the quality of members, I'd have to say there's probably a reason for people to "prefer" other guilds, so to speak. You don't just magically become known because you're a guildmaster - you have to actually DO something with your guild. What can your guild offer that others can't?

You're not doing yourself any favors by complaining publicly about the lack of recognition you're getting. I'll leave it at that.

I think the lack of members has more to do with how the Guild Master acts than on the rival guilds. You constantly are complaining on the forums and in trade chat. This thread being a prime example. It reflects very badly upon the guild when you do that and drives people away that might otherwise join. Also, the guild masters and officers set the tone of a guild. View it from a potential member's perspective... would you prefer a guild that is viewed as full of complainers (due to how the people in charge of it act) or one that just does what sounds fun?

Honestly, if I were in your shoes I'd calm down and find a focus for your guild other then "lots of members". EoS, since you more or less named us by naming Njthug, focuses on having fun for example. Yes we have a lot of well off members, but most of the members and EoS itself have all been around for quite a while. If your guild is fun, or good at LD (if a LD guild), or whatever your focus is then your members will help bring in more members because they will try to get their friends in also.

~Gwen

As a previous GM of a guild, I agree with what the others say about guild construction. Have a base. Is your guild going to be PvE or PvP, is it a happy guild, or just a guild full of drama (fyi those with drama won't last long). It's a game, have fun with it! Most guilds begins with a group of friends. Make some rules, guidelines for your members to follow. If you're having trouble talk with your members. Hear what they have to say.

You say that in a couple years you'll get 1 or 2 people to join your guild, well that's negative talk. You're a bright talkative kid, you can make friends easily! So, believe me, if you focus more on your guild and less on the drama you'll grow your guild into a more stronger community and will surely get more than your future"quota".

... don't know exactly on what level of crap i'm not supposed to give on this thread. Are you 5? Have fun with what you do! Is there a Largest-Guild-Wins game going on?

Hey, it's only been like a week or two since you made that thread saying your guild forced you to donate and participate in guild events and never helped you with the Jelly King...

I'm going to assume that somewhere within the creation of that thread and now, you left your guild, started your own guild, and now here you are complaining that your guild isn't big?

Listen, I own my own guild of 61 members, and only about 10 or 12 of them are actually active (I really need to go through them all and remove the inactives). I'm still a bit inexperienced as far as leading a guild goes, but I've noticed something; all of my active members were not players whom I simply "recruited", they were all people that I played with for some time (before they joined), people who asked to join my guild, and players who I had talked with for a decent amount of time.

99.99% of players I've just simply "recruited" from haven usually donate 3,000 CR then leave the following day or go inactive forever. While that was perfectly fine with me when I was recruiting at the release of the Guild Hall update (my guild really needed the CR), now I don't even bother to actively recruit members anymore, because I've learned that the best way to build "loyalty" is to simply help people out and be a good virtual friend.