Spiral Knights - Is there a problem with the clockworks of fire?

Is there a problem with the clockworks of fire?

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Sat, 01/05/2013 - 09:20

Keli-Zepheran

Greetings forums, I merely wanted to state that I am new to these forums and have also recently joined the exploration of Cradle. I do believe, however, that this wouldn't constitute as a "newblood's request." That is why I have decided to bring up this issue within the general discussions.

While exploring the Clockworks and checking up on the progress of the future gates, I have noticed something rather peculiar. I have noticed that the number of Clockworks with the theme of fire have been few and far between. It appears that I would be lucky if I even found myself within the strongholds of fire and flames.

I am actually in need of some materials from these certain clockworks, but I am fully aware of the fact that I am fully capable of buying these common materials. However, I must ask you this, is there something wrong with the Clockworks of Inferno? Is it because the Crimsonite provides a lesser reward than the other minerals? Is the mineral less common? Is it merely coincidence? Does Winterfest have anything to do with it? Or is it the fact that these particular Clockworks suffer the same curse that many an explorer suffers when exploring any region of ash and volcanoes?

Any response is greatly appreciated.

Sat, 01/05/2013 - 10:15

Etharaes

It probably has something to do with Firestorm Citadel

The most commonly farmed stratum, with it's themes being undead and fire. Others will probably explain better/ know more on this subject.

Sat, 01/05/2013 - 10:21

Arctifice

From what I can infer, not

From what I can infer, not many people actively try and tool strata anymore, unless there's a formula that guarantees us three arenas in an even strata. Most players aren't even deferential to a particular type of strata: given a well-rounded endgame player, any Clockworks level they run into should be dealt with rather easily, and as a result, not many care about what strata to create.

If you need to buy fire-based reagents, you're in luck: Firestorm Citadel is THE endgame farming area, and any player who's been there likely has massive reserves of fire-based reagents to sell for very cheap.

Sat, 01/05/2013 - 10:37

Acid-Snow-Wiki

Well

First of all, your style is somewhat wordy (hypocrisy ftw!), but in answer to your question - yes, Crimsonite is somewhat less common. More importantly, however, is that Luminite is even less common. The mineral which is most likely to sell for 4 cr apiece (i.e. that which is most likely to be in lesser numbers than the rest) is Luminite, and the next most likely is either Valestone or Crimsonite. Conversely, the least likely to sell for more than 2 cr apiece is Dark Matter.

I'm not entirely sure why this is the case. It could be that the chance of obtaining certain minerals depends on the stratum theme, but that should fluctuate somewhat. If you search the forum for mineral frequency, you might find various threads trying to collect, compare, and analyze such data, but it is a large endeavor that few would try.

Edit: I agree with Arctifice, in that you are in luck - the Flame Soul, the 5* material for fire, has far lower buy and bid prices than the 5* materials for shock (Spark of Life), freeze (Everfrost), and poison (Plague Essence), as well as essentially every other 5* material. The same goes for Blast Powder, Torchstone, and Blaze Pepper.

Sat, 01/05/2013 - 11:36

Canine-Vladmir

This should cheer you up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK3WPeg3WxU

p.s. my thought is that most of us(I) dont know how to manipulate the clockworks with minerals.

Sat, 01/05/2013 - 17:55

Flowchart

also people try to make Gremlin strata as much as possible. So unless it switches randomly and happens to be fire, it doesn't happen too much

Sat, 01/05/2013 - 19:33

Hexzyle

People run Firestorm Citadel,

People run Firestorm Citadel, which is fire themed (Crimsonite and Luminite) and Royal Jelly Palace, which is Jelly themed (Luminite and Valestone) and due to minerals nature of frequently choosing mineral types that AREN'T used to build the strata, (So Moonstone, Valestone and Dark Matter for FSC, and Moonstone, Dark Matter, and Crimsonite for RJP) Luminite, Crimsonite and Valestone are quite rare.

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Is there a problem with the clockworks of fire?