Don't be hating on pets, would you in real life?
To all those pet haters
You hate them because their ugly? Really? That is your answer?
Dont You think?
theres not enough info on pets to hate on.
besides there kinda cute.
Exactly! I agree with you. Nobody else seems to understand it.
Oh god, I hate it when people like you come onto the forums
"Oh god, I hate it when people like you come onto the forums"
Look who's talking. You don't even read anything, you just spout stupid questions and statements everywhere like you know what you're talking about.
Well if you think they are stupid, then why do you bother poking your nose into forums that I make?
And I also just hate those who hate pets, so I was hoping this would put some sense into them to SHUT UP
I'm not against pets. I'm agaisnt giving more power to knights without buffing enemies.
Anyways why dont you SHUT UP. Everyone has the right to express it's opinion.
Well, if you don't want extra help in the game, then don't use your sprite
"Well if you think they are stupid, then why do you bother poking your nose into forums that I make?"
Thread*. And it's a public forum. I can call out something as being stupid if it's stupid if I want to.
"I was hoping this would put some sense into them to SHUT UP"
You can hardly pretend to be the one to 'put some sense into people' when you clearly need 'putting sense into' yourself.
You shut up and think.
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/55486
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/59880
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/59016
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/58036
To name but a small few.
You must have too much free time if you find all these old forums
Once again, thread*
Not even two minutes was all it took. And unlike some people, I actually bother to think, instead of whining and moaning at everyone else.
I also listen, because it would appear that there are those who don't as well.
And I really like pets, so I hate it when people keep yelling out that they hate them
I don't know if you've noticed, shockwave, but no one has come on to this thread and yelled out that they hated them. (Unless you count erridunno, who i'm fairly certain was being sarcastic. :u)
Psycho's just trying to explain to you that pets and battle sprites aren't the same thing, and most "pet haters" are just people criticizing poorly-thought-out suggestions. On the other hand, i don't really think battle sprite haters even exist yet...
It's not the idea itself that is necessarily bad; it is the complete lack of thought most suggesters put into their posts that we hate. The vast majority of such posts simply say "I want a cute pet to follow me around and do things" without describing how they would fit into the SK environment.
In fact, if you were to ask most of the pet "haters" about the Battle Sprite idea, they would probably say "It sounds interesting, but I have these reservations: ...". This is because Nick laid out a detailed description of how they would work in concept, how they would fit into the Clockworks and even the SK lore. And in fact, many such players made posts addressing issues, such as gameplay difficulty and the Coliseum/Lockdown.
Psychodestroyer is a little more abrasive than he needs to be, but his first responses typically revolve around a valid point. Name-calling and flame wars don't change that.
I really like tech and robots, but I don't blow a fuse when I find people who absolutely despise mecha.
There are some things I do get heated over in terms of difference in opinion, but those are unrelated.
Preference is one thing. What I'm thinking about is another.
You're hating on preference. One of the things I heavily dislike people doing.
You are in no position to tell people what or what not to prefer. Don't. It annoys me for reasons I stated earlier, and when I get annoyed, threads get heavily derailed.
Not even a threat, that's a fact. It just happens >.>
"Psychodestroyer is a little more abrasive than he needs to be"
Apologies, but there are a few factors relating to that. I won't list them, because that would be boring and pointless.
I honestly hate him so much that I can get off topic. He acts like it's his job to put some random thread in my face, also finding a way to insult me while doing it, and thinks everything I say is stupid and needs to be corrected. He acts like he is better than me, and if I misread something in a thread, he rubs it in my face not caring how I feel, I have some learning and reading disorder, I can't help it if I don't know something that makes my thread an error.
On the other hand, thank you for explaining that
Shockwave. People are allowed to disagree with you. You are not always right. Maybe you are right sometimes, but not all the time.
The reason people didn't like the idea of pets is because, when people said "pets", what was meant was a World of Warcraft style pet that acted on its own. This would have further discouraged strategies like Shiver+Catalyzers and the like, while making the other fighting styles too easy to succeed with (for example, your pet could distract everything while you go to town with your Blitz Needle, Brandish, or whatever).
What Three Rings is adding is different; Battle Sprite attacks are activated manually. This means no stupid decisions on the pet's part, and the update can help all strategies equally well. In addition to this, I heard rumors that Nick is making enemies tougher to compensate for the power boost Battle Sprites will give.
There is, of course, not enough information to hate on battle sprites. However, Battle Sprites are not the same "pets" people were suggesting.
There is no reason to hate someone because he does not like a suggestion for a game. In fact, if you hate someone for this reason, it's really just very petty. (I for one am looking forward to the Battle Sprites, but if someone is against them, I will not hate the person because of it.)
I guess pets might not be the best way to describe pocket monsters and stuff, I know that people are allowed to disagree with me, but do they have to be so offensive while doing it?
Pets not only look like they're going to destroy the game's balance system and horribly destroy PvP balance, but it makes PvE easier.
The last thing this game needs is to become easier.
"He acts like it's his job to put some random thread in my face, also finding a way to insult me while doing it, and thinks everything I say is stupid and needs to be corrected. He acts like he is better than me, and if I misread something in a thread, he rubs it in my face not caring how I feel, I have some learning and reading disorder, I can't help it if I don't know something that makes my thread an error."
Pray tell how you appear to know me so well yet can get the fundamental aspects of my character wrong?
I don't think myself above anyone. Not even people I hate, which number in the very few. There are those who I'm wary and generally hostile to, but that aligns with past experiences and a bad impression. 'Hate' does not come in to those.
A personal thing of mine. I don't need to discuss it further.
You didn't bother to check and read, and can hardly blame me for being hostile when clearly you were the first hater in your own thread.
"Do you think people care if you don't like them?"
"I have some learning and reading disorder, I can't help it if I don't know something that makes my thread an error."
Pray tell where you mentioned this? I'm normally more considerate of even partially disabled people to an extent, but you made no mention of it and went straight to hating.
"He acts like he is better than me, and if I misread something in a thread, he rubs it in my face not caring how I feel"
You missed it outright, and when I pointed it out, however I did it, yelled at me for mocking you when the fact remains that you missed it. You really can't expect me to be nice about that.
Not to mention that's the second time I've told you to actually read the thread instead of asking questions that were easy to find the answer to by just reading.
Mocking in threads = putting what the person said in their comment on your comment and saying something like, I find that statement stupid or, do you know how to even the forums?
How he said it was the most suggested thing.
Core, new bosses, new gear, I am annoyed.
Also, i don't like the suggestion being implemented while the game is TOO easy.
And the Starters suck in my oppinion.
Well you see Sir Zapwave, we dont hate pets
Its just that so many bloody threads about pets without any real detail whatsoever happend every bloody week in the suggestion threads, I still have nightmares of those threads coming out of my closet. Also, I have nightmares of NJthug stealing my homework...
"Mocking in threads = putting what the person said in their comment on your comment and saying something like, I find that statement stupid or, do you know how to even the forums?"
Doesn't make it any less true. My intent was aggressive, considering 1) You didn't bother to do even minimal 'research', if it could be called that/ and 2) Went straight onto telling said 'hater's that no-one cares what they think.
Expect me to be nice about it, you cannot.
The attitiude.
That attitude just, i dunno,
Just feels like a punch in the face.
And considering the maturity, it's expected.
I admit, I may have started this thread wrong, but you can't expect me to be perfect about threads
Why don't you cyber bully someone else? You always find something to argue about on all of my threads
Well snappers nappers. we have a whiner here!
Is he really?
Not really.
And you know, he is not following your threads.
And if he does find something to argue, he's not bullying. You even asked a question on the top.
"I admit, I may have started this thread wrong, but you can't expect me to be perfect about threads"
I don't. But some people, when they realize they're wrong, actually try to improve so they don't get constantly hated on?
Fighting back even when wrong just shows a hostile attitude, depending on how 'wrong' the 'wrong' is.
/hint hint?
EDIT:
"Why don't you cyber bully someone else? You always find something to argue about on all of my threads"
/rolls his eyes. Mecha please, you're not so special that I keep an eye on you specifically. I read almost all threads posted in GD, and Suggestions. If you're going to pull a derp in either, I'm probably going to see it and comment on it.
Not following my threads? Then how come I keep finding one of his comments on mine, saying that my statements are stupid and it's apparently his job to correct them?
I try to improve, but apparently you find a way to show my failure at learning from my mistakes
"I try to improve, but apparently you find a way to show my failure at learning from my mistakes"
What learning? You didn't show anything. You can't expect people to see what isn't there.
@Captainshockwave They're*
@Canine-Vladmir They're*
Guys. Do you know what you guys need?
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@Maulos/grammer nazi, il luve yu, me betcha u didnt now tha
I used to go on several threads akin. Sometimes it will have the same authour.
So?
If I post on the same thread Juances went on, am I stalking him/her?
So?
Go to other threads and you may see Psycho's name.
Times like this drive a box to drink.
Now if only I could find my mouth.
Congratulations, OP. You win a round-trip ticket to four days and five nights in a veterinary septic tank.
Why do you hate spiders? How would you feel if they where the battle sprites?
Would you hate them because they are spiders? Maybe, but the remaining 90% of the people wont want them in the game because they just change the game, his metagame, too much things.
4 knights running with their pets shooting/poisoning/protecting them, maybe it will be possible even do Vanaduke runs without using weapons.
Imagine if Black Ops 2 were about running without weapons with a mini robot flying over your head. PLEASE, THAT IS WHY PEOPLE HATE BATTLE SPRITES, ITS SIMPLE.
End of the argument.
To those who hate Psychodestroyer/his posts: Why do you hate him? What did he ever do to you? Do you think people care if you don't like him?
Maybe think about things sometimes. K? Psycho has a well-earned reputation of being someone who brings up valid points in his arguments. You don't. Granted he's not always nice about it, but welcome to something called Life where people don't go out of their way to be nice to you.
If you want to stifle those with opinions that differ from yours, however drastically, you really don't have a leg to stand on since you violate your own logic by posting your opinion. And good luck if you just want to go through life being the only one who's allowed to express an opinion on a subject. That's the best way to get very opinionated people who like to eat people like that for breakfast.
Suck up much? He's a jerk and I hate him and he has no life if he reads EVERY thread
You'd like to think that, wouldn't you?
Also, I made one statement about him. You decided to pick that out of everything I posted and disregard what may be inconvenient for you to answer. Then you (presumably) Graveyarded the thread so you could have the last word. It doesn't scream "maturity."
Think before you post. That's all I'm asking. Just think.
And in answer to your edited main post, yes, I would hate on cats IRL. I don't like them and I think they're useless. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. And since this is a public forum I can say it.
"He's a jerk and I hate him and he has no life if he reads EVERY thread"
/calls me a jerk
/says I have no life because I do stuff on the forums like people using the forums are supposed to do
Seems legit.
FYI, posting on a thread in the Graveyard because I look for topics I find I have missed while being afk for an hour or two.
Ubernerd is his own person. Posting positive material about me does not constitute as 'sucking up', so really you're just making yourself look like the jerk for hating on me and (now) him, when really all I'm (and he now) doing is pointing out obvious and apparent flaws.
You're seriously not listening if you keep hating on me like this. Honestly, shut your digital mouth for five minutes and reread your previous posts and threads and tell me you didn't royally screw up.
As for Ubernerd, frankly, he probably doesn't even want/need me as a friend. He just knows the way I operate more than you and posted accordingly. Period.
Also: "I read almost all threads posted in GD, and Suggestions."
Also, hypocrisy be crying when you would clearly have less of a life than me if you're hating on an internet person for telling you you're wrong every single time you're wrong.
I'm not obliged to be nice to you, so stop acting like I should.
/me reads posts.
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/me has left the thread.
What I do take issue with are people who don't even bother to think about the consequences if their suggestions were implemented. Or people who can't be bothered to put any detail into their suggestions. And if their suggestions are incomprehensible, then I really can't give any positive feedback on the matter.
I also take issue with people who post what are essentially rage threads about people raging about updates. If only because it's pointless and just engenders further arguments that were totally unnecessary, although I admit that reading this made me feel good since my blood pressure is lower than is really health and the contents were mildly amusing.
Its funny no Admin Commented on this :3
Dont now why some guys r hatin, they havent even come out yet. And phsycodestroyer give the guy a break man. I really hope they make this a good update.
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