Because if I understand it right, what nick wanted was to let one player pay real money for OCH then "gift" it to his friends. Not direct purchases with energy. Just like in steam.

What I dont know is that if they cant achieve such ideas, they should do it like the asians.

Ask gamecyber.

True to fact that the publishers will have some rights over the game. Sega would most likely try to find some way to earn money, OCH is one. Gamecyber may have some different mindsets etc.

Okay, so Operation Crimson Hammer is a purchasable DLC that was intended to be acquired through purchase and subsequently gifted and/or traded to other players that would rather use in-game currency. While the latter has only partially been achieved I don't see it being such a bad thing as some make it out to be. If Three Rings make more money, more can be put into developing the game and who knows, with enough money they might be able to expand the team and *gasp* increase the frequency of updates. I know, it's a wicked concept but it's one I'd be willing to contribute to.

I'd just like to point out that people keep saying -spend more money- so this game can get new content faster. That is a true concept but you need to realize one thing... Three Rings/Spiral Knights is no longer an indie company. They are owned by Sega America.

To make it simple. Spending more money on this game may not give you more updates. While Three Rings does need to keep staff and servers running Sega America is taking a chunk of the money they make. Also they would need more staff to make said updates faster.. whether they have that kind of money or not is depends on 3 things.

How much players spend
The bills they have to pay to keep running
How much Sega America takes from them

oh and I forgot one thing.. how much Three Rings spends on that fancy pants office they have. I wish my work place was that nice.

Because the Asian servers are not the American servers.

P.s. i haf a dinosaur crotch

Or reasoning. That's too bad.

What really grinds my gears is that OOO won't issue a statement concerning this obviously controversial topic. Almost a year ago they told us they were working on making DLC tradeable between players in the official client. So far only Steam Knights can get the DLC while still being F2P, effectively keeping the content out of the hands of a significant amount of players.

I just don't understand why OOO won't let us purchase the DLC with CE, they don't lose any money that way (from my naive point of view). All CE spent by players, no matter if they're P2P or not, has to be bought from OOO for real money. I understand that there might be difficulties with Steam (although they shouldn't mind whether they get their share from selling DLCs or from selling CE.)

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Trabias

I play on the Asian server, and being able to buy OCH with CE ain't as good as you guys think it is,
Due to OCH being free, rocket hammers are very common in lockdown, and the cheena players
over there abuse auto-aim to the max, causing a lot of rage to me and my fellow alliance guild members.
I think that OCH should stay a paid DLC, unless you want more striker hammers zooming around LD.

So you're saying you rather want a few player with overpowered and annoying weapons not everyone has access to rather than everyone getting access to said weapons and thus forcing OOO to actually balance them so other weapons remain viable in LD?

@Etendue
Would you mind elaborating further? As I see it, OOO could benefit from selling OCH for CE, not taking any problems with Steam into account. From the top of my head I can think of a few positive effects this would have for OOO:

• Instead of alienating the non-Steam F2P player base this would be a sign of appreciation. F2P players again could gain access to all the content in the game, further incentivising them to spend more time in the game and maybe even money. Keeping stuff from people for not spending money is certainly worse then rewarding them for their efforts. Spending money to progress faster in a game is more likely then being pressured into spending money in order to access content and remain competitive.
• Removing large amounts of CE from the market would increase its worth. P2P players could turn quite a bit of profit as long as CE prices remain high. Sure, many people would complain about higher CE prices but would eventually cough up the Crowns up to a certain point. Again this drives F2P to spend more time or money. Ridiculously high prices might drive away casual F2P players or people just starting out, which obviously would be a bad thing. More promotions or maybe giving away "premium" items (such as mist tanks, elevator passes or weapon and trinket slots) in early missions could help newer players to reach a point where they can be self-sufficient.

Rabeet-Ahsan

The Elevator Pass is also buyable with ce there too.

On the other hand, I'm completely happy with OOO not selling elevator passes for CE. This could have terrible consequences on the market, I'd rather not jump to conclusions though. Can someone tell us how that works out on the Asian servers, how much CE sells for (in real money and in Crowns) and how stable the market is?

TL;DR;
If such business tactics are not questioned, OOO has no reason to think again before building more paywalls. In the Battle Sprite thread Nick has failed to acknowledge any questions concerning P2P-only Battle Sprites, harnesses or skills. In my opinion this doesn't bode well for a game claiming to be free to play. This is not how I like to see the Freemium model implemented, unfortunately not many other people seem to share that opinion.

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@ianeria I personally prefer less hammers than more hammers, even if they are nerfed

@etendue Y u no play on asian server nao? D:

Where you can buy DOTA 2, L4D, TF2 hats and multiple other things with CE, thanks to the wonderful off-game trade system

The thing is, you don't buy those items with CE, you gift CE to other players using the store gifting system and they gift you the items that they have bought from the Steam Store with real money.

You cannot take the CE directly to steam and buy those items with it. That would be like farming GP on RuneScape and then trying to use it in Walmart.