Spiral Knights - Confusion About Auto Target

Confusion About Auto Target

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Sat, 01/26/2013 - 13:06

Vesperaldus

Okay so I keep seeing people say that Auto Target (aka Auto Aim) can make you do a 360 swing. Am I misunderstanding something here because my "zone" for my Auto Target to lock on to someone is most certainly not behind me. In fact, it seems like quite the acute angle in front of me (acute=less than 90 degrees in case not everyone understands my diction). I most certainly do not lock onto anyone outside this narrow range, nor does it readjust my aim for anyone outside this zone.

Either people are misinterpreting Auto Target's capabilities, or I seem to be horribly confused. Someone explain?

Sat, 01/26/2013 - 13:45

Fradow

360° would be right in front

360° would be right in front of you (unless you mean a point blank area of effect, which is not possible for normal swings).

However, if you mean doing a 180° between one swing and the next one, yes it's totally possible. It's even possible (albeit much harder to aim precisely) without auto target.

Auto target takes the closest target from your pointer (up to a certain distance, if you are too far off it won't register) and makes it so that you face right this direction when you swing.

As an aside, a lot of people have very little clue about auto target capabilities. For examples, the ones who blame AA gunners or AA bombers in LD. Blaming someone for AA GF/DA is funny too.

Sat, 01/26/2013 - 13:57

Little-Juances

It's easier to see with a heavy sword combo. First swing might miss, but second one will surely flip into a target.

Sat, 01/26/2013 - 17:03

Vesperaldus

I've heard 360 thrown out a

I've heard 360 thrown out a few times... not too sure about how that would work (make a 360 spin before hitting?)... but directly behind you or 180º also seemed to be implied which also doesn't make sense to me because my Auto Target zone isn't extending behind me and I've never done a 180 hit and "AA" is allways on (for LD since I haven't quite got the "skills" to keep up with this faster pace gameplay). In other words, you say it's possible, yet I cannot seem to understand how since my cross hairs do not extend past roughly a 30º angle from both sides of me (assuming the imaginary intersecting line is drawn straight out from the direction I'm facing).

Excuse my lack of knowledge in the finer mechanics of the "popular sport."

Sat, 01/26/2013 - 20:01

Possiblespy

No tests and little experience to prove any of this, but...

It seems that autotarget/autoaim will change the way you're facing toward what it's locked onto.
It also seems, at least to me, that it'll do this even after you've swung a sword to compensate for not leading (aiming where the thing WILL be) the swing.
The range for which it to originally have locked onto things, however, does seem like the 30 degree angle you're talking about.

If autotarget/autoaim were to lock onto a striker dashing past you from your right, according to what I've noticed:

1. You'd start moving towards the striker, to your right.
2. The striker would go around you.
3. You'd continue moving towards the striker, which is now to your left, creating a single swing that moves the knight in two different directions.

Now, one of two things would happen:
4. You were using a second or third flourish swing, the stab motion ones, your sword would do a 180 and the striker, enraged at this display of impossibility, would confuse 180 degrees with 360 degrees.

4. You were using a sword that swings left to right, in which case it'd travel from your left, which is north while facing east, to your right, which is ALSO north once you're facing west, creating the magic 360 swing.

Once again, I haven't really done any science-y tests or anything, that was all just casual observations and then reasoning. I didn't even research enough to see if those were the precise terms for what I did.

Sat, 01/26/2013 - 23:58

Fradow

"I've heard 360 thrown out a

"I've heard 360 thrown out a few times."
Some people really don't think twice before shooting incoherent things .... Don't mind them.

"but directly behind you or 180º also seemed to be implied"
Because that's totally possible, Possiblespy explain it pretty well. To have an idea of this : go in a training hall. Face top to swing top, then immediately drag you cursor bottom, and swing again : you'll have done a 180° without auto target. That's what's implied. The use of auto target is to actually make that second swing connect (without auto target, most of the time you are going to miss it).

"Excuse my lack of knowledge in the finer mechanics of the "popular sport.""
There is nothing to excuse, intelligent people try to learn, fools shoot insanities.

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 08:59

Vesperaldus

Okay so the SECOND swing

Okay so the SECOND swing makes the 180... that certainly makes sense. I was thinking it was the first swing, which seemed rightly absurd... which would indeed put into question Auto Target's roll in the game (although people seem to only complain about certain "injustices" when it's PvP).

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