Your thoughts on teles to love puppies
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 04:30
Ok, just came across someone selling these for 8k ce a pop.
[exploit redacted]
Update for clarity: The exploit/bug/game mechanic allows one to infinitely generate heart pendants. The two issues in case here are rare items being duped, and people profiteering by enabling the duping.
My question is, is this a valid method of generating income?
To me this seems to be exploiting the mechanics to get rich quickly. The other thing is that if enough people start doing this surely it will just flood the market with supposedly rare items.
Just to preempt, this shouldn't be compared to terminal teles as each char can only purchase 1 recipes in a 24hr period.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 04:49
#2
Justice will prevail, rest
Justice will prevail, rest asssured. And better remove the details (howto).
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 04:55
#3
Why? It's common knowledge.
Why? It's common knowledge.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 05:00
#4
Because it is against Terms
Because it is against Terms of Service. There was an thread earlier with posts explaining that in details like you did and they were removed and the admin striked a warning to not repeat this as it will get you banned.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 05:01
#5
Because
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Community_Standards
Exploits and Abuse of Bugs
Do not abuse broken game mechanics! - Sometimes bugs or oversights in the game design may occur. An example would be a situation that allowed a knight to generate free money within the game. If a bug is found, you are expected to report it immediately and not take advantage of it. Exploiting, publicizing or encouraging others to exploit bugs, design oversights or other issues is not acceptable.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 05:04
#6
Sorry, hadn't seen that.
Sorry, hadn't seen that. Updated my post.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 05:20
#7
Errr... why is this an
Errr... why is this an exploit exactly? Can someone explain to me how this is worse than a Basil invite?
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 05:28
#8
This is worse than a Basil
This is worse than a Basil invite because you're guaranteed to see Basil in his designated depths.
Love Puppies are rare encounters that may or may not drop some of the best trinkets in the game.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 05:28
#9
Well I hadn't heard about it
Well I hadn't heard about it until you posted about it, so that's one evildoer you've given ideas.
(This is a joke)
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 06:29
#10
there is a limit there
"Errr... why is this an exploit exactly? Can someone explain to me how this is worse than a Basil invite?"
Basil only carries certain recipes that are in limited demand at the time, and you can only buy 1 of the recipes per person per day cutting long-term profit. The love puppy trinkets are in high supply, and with *redacted* you have an unlimited number of these that are selling for high prices extremely fast.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 06:37
#11
Eventually either OOO rings
Eventually either OOO rings will fix this, or the market will be flooded with the trinkets thereby reducing the demand for them.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 07:09
#12
The market's already flooded
The market's already flooded with them and their value has plummeted drastically because of it.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 07:21
#13
Hazel is correct. It'll even
Hazel is correct. It'll even itself out eventually, like the price of Silversixes and Avengers dropped after farming the Jelly king became an easy and obvious thing to do.
Fixing the ability to farm love puppies now won't fix the economy for the heart pendants, it'll just prevent something like this hurting the game in the future by making another rare monster easily farmable or so.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 12:33
#14
The quoted Three Rings policy
The quoted Three Rings policy is not applicable because this is not exploitation of bugged or unintended game mechanics. This is working as intended.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 12:41
#15
this is definitely NOT
this is definitely NOT working as intended...
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 13:12
#16
@Adrian783, Yeah, you say
EDIT: Because of edits to the original post, the actual subject of this entire thread is misleading. It's about an actual exploit involving duping of the rare spawn; not just the selling of the port in and of itself. I typed my original reply to Adrian here assuming that the only issue at hand was the sale of a chance at a rare drop; not a mob-duping bug.
The original post should be re-edited for clarity.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 12:59
#17
its not wrong to sell ports
its not wrong to sell ports its just stupid. think about it. you could sell people an ok CHANCE that they MIGHT get a rare drop. or you could sell them the actual drop. which do you think is gonna make the most crowns. its between selling people a 20% chance of a rare drop or a 100% chance. common sense.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 13:04
#18
Rotfl dukelexon, go on and
Rotfl dukelexon, go on and abuse it, i dare you. We'll be the ones laughing.
Edit: it seems that you are clueless what this thread is about, its about the duping thingy.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 13:09
#19
@jooozek If that's the case,
@jooozek
If that's the case, then I stand corrected. I can't be blamed for being "clueless" about what the thread is about when there's NOTHING about it in the original post, however. I know nothing about a "duping thingy." I see only the words "exploit redacted" in the original post, which out of context, means all of nothing. The full body of the original post seems to be only a complaint about selling the ports in and of themselves, thus, it's what I and many other people that came late to the party are left to respond to.
You can describe the net effect of an exploit without giving details about how it's done; you don't have to censor its mention completely. It only confuses people in an ongoing thread. For anyone who comes in after the original post was edited, it looks for all the world like a collection of people whining about the practice of selling ports.
Without giving details about how the exploit is done, can you explain what it does, exactly?
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 13:16
#20
Bugs are bad seriously.
Bugs are bad seriously.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 13:10
#21
Okay, yeah, that's a bug.
Okay, yeah, that's a bug. Very bannable. You're right.
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 13:10
#22
net effect is market flooding
net effect is market flooding with rare trinkets, and some people getting rich in the process
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 13:39
#23
its not that hard to fix and
its not that hard to fix and I have yet to find out why they haven't fixed it yet, they can't just make the rare monster disappear when someone is removed via party because if someone happens 2 see it first (party leader) he may try to kick someone out 2 make sure he gets the drop. but the best thing to do is to make it so when a rare monster spawns the party should become restricted so ppl can't continually farm the rare monster
Sun, 05/08/2011 - 13:41
#24
And the value of the trinkets
And the value of the trinkets get depressed too. Good news if you're looking for them!
Mon, 05/09/2011 - 08:50
#25
Updated the original post for
Updated the original post for clarity.
Mon, 05/09/2011 - 09:41
#26
Just a random note...
Just a random note in regards to the question of whether the Puppy farming exploit is considered a violation of TOS or not, a screencap I found on another forum:
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5897/82651345.jpg
Assuming this is legitimate, signs point to "Yes, this is bad, stop it."
Mon, 05/09/2011 - 10:41
#27
It's not a bug/glitch as much
It's not a bug/glitch as much as it is an exploitation of an oversight in the game's mechanics. It's working as it should, but not as intended.
It's still wrong. I'm pretty sure there's something that shows it in the ToS.
It's blatant exploitation.