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Sat, 02/02/2013 - 19:34
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Bossbane

Hey all! Styrka here. (Happy Ground Hogs day, by the by.)

So, with the buffing of Chaos armor recently, my resolve to get it has been doubled -- because that's what the charge reduction and damage is now. A medium bonus on both of them...oooohhhhhh, the Gombing and Swombing I shall do!!!

Anyways. I am wondering what charge attacks strike the most fear into the hearts of enemies. I know of course about the auto guns abusive damage outputs on trapped enemies, but what else might I use to great effect? I was thinking the Grintovec line could seriously end the days of a vortexed bunch of _____________. (Anything.)

Please let me know what you think and if you've any ways of getting around the Chaos armors unfortunate 'status magnet' problem.

Thanks,
-Styrka

Sat, 02/02/2013 - 21:25
#1
Snipm's picture
Snipm
Charges: Brandishes, Divine

Charges: Brandishes, Divine Avenger, Alchemers, Bombs

Gunners rarely get hit and can make good use of Chaos gear with minimal problems. Dodging and shielding can also keep you alive in Chaos gear. (12 seconds of status isn't fun, and that's just one piece of Chaos)

Sat, 02/02/2013 - 21:56
#2
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Magnicth
I think it's safe to say that

I think it's safe to say that Suda/Trig have one of, if not the best, the best charges in the game. Because they do. Also, catalyzers, volcanic pepperbox, cautery sword, wrench wand, irontech destroyer, and big angry bomb.

~Magnicth

Sun, 02/03/2013 - 01:36
#3
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Fradow
Suda/Triglav have a charge

Suda/Triglav have a charge attack that pairs well with a Vortex. But otherwise, they are slow to charge (almost as slow as Gran Faust, according Lancer Knightz data), leaves you exposed for a long time, have a kinda small radius, and don't even do that much damage.

One main challenger after Autoguns is Fang of Vog. Sure it can put you on fire, but it's one of the highest damaging charge of the game (again, after Blitz), it's fast to release, the pattern is good and the weapon is easy to obtain (once you farm FSC)

Alchemers have a good charge attack too, but kinda hard to really use well (if you can land all 12 ricochets, yeah it will be very good. Sadly you generally land about 4 or them).

Brandishes, and especially Combuster have a good charge attack, which is very safe to use : it's fast to charge, fast to release, and push mob backs.

Sun, 02/03/2013 - 03:26
#4
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Krakob
Bombs.

Nitro, BAB, Irontech, Heavy Decon, Shard bombs, Haze bombs, Vortexes, DR, DBB, Static Flash, Firecracker, and Cold Snap have pretty decent charges.

Sun, 02/03/2013 - 04:28
#5
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Fleet-Miss-Gun
Guns.

Blizt have overpowered charge attack.

Sun, 02/03/2013 - 05:57
#6
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The-Rawrcake
What might be a good idea -

What might be a good idea - if you have a fourth weapon slot - is to take an Ash of Agni in addition to whatever 3 weps you normall have. Ash is nice for a large amount of sustained, AoE damage in rooms of derplarge hordes of monsters.

Sun, 02/03/2013 - 08:36
#7
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Kamishinlnoyari
shadow ^^

Acheron`s charge is my favourite and I think the big purple explosions are...THE BEST!
Other fierce charges are the AP and Sentenza`s "owl" (at the end of the charge attack),Sudauska,Triglav,WMRH,Fang of Vod,Big Angry bomb.

Sun, 02/03/2013 - 16:46
#8
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Poopsie
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nobody mentioned flourish charge, it could one-shot any fiend/beast except trojan in full party members, and alpha wolver at danger missions/Shadow Lair. You are going to die when charging fang of vog with chaos set. Or at least prepare to put off your fire after charge, like grabbing water and splash it near wall.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 05:33
#9
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Aquajag
You could always get chaos

You could always get chaos with fire uv max... then you won't burn. Chaos FoV 4 evah! You'll one-shot most anything I think.

I'd go with brandish myself. I converted from bombs to swords when they stabbed the RSS in the face and killed it. And I can't believe I lived this long without Brandish charge. Though don't underestimate the sheer annoyance you will cause to your party if you spam the charge on a Leviathan blade! Good times.

A couple friends have been using chaos with guns. And they charge spam the blitz and alchemers, and do ridiculous damage.

By the by, I don't think the time of status will get much worse with a second piece of chaos, for the person who pointed out they have 12 with just one piece. Having run many an FSC with Mad Bomber, I think the time didn't get much worse with the second piece, but I took more damage from each tick of fire... Could be wrong about that though.

A good shield and mastering dodging should help keep you out of "status magnet" issues.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 00:08
#10
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Sireez
carried away

was discussing this in guild chat (no one cared). and I ranked mine as far as which are most fun to use and what I charge most. My opinions aren't based on pure damage and I dont' min max or anything. : P my only solution to chaos is pack remedies : P and pills.

Sword Charges:
1: Wild Hunting Blade
2: Sudaruska
3: Fang of Vog
4: Acheron/Glacious/Combuster/Voltedge
5: Gran Faust/Divine Avenger

although since recently getting a barbarous thorn blade just to add to collection (already had a final flourish) I gotta say tahts pretty fun to unleash witht he holo snarbo and all. The wild hunting blade is one of my favorite to charge. Its fun to juggle enemies with the holo wolvers and the barking of the blade. Sudaruska is a blast for me to use on a large group of enemies. I always get a kick out of that explosion since they changed the charge. Not to mention the fun I've had charging the Sudaruska on knights in lockdown; nothing says denied quite like a Suda charge to the face. I have a slight suicidal tendecy in sk and so I charge the gran faust and fang of vog frequently. the Fang of vog's charge is the essence of utter annihilation XD. Another excellent change was of course to the brandish line. its not high onthe list because its fairly plain style but the fun comes from unleashing the raw power. since the change I pretty much dropped my DA to use my brandish collection. ( I had all four before the patch that buffed the charge). the long reach added a nice utility to inflicting status to enemies that couldnt' touch you. Acheron and Combuster I love for the massive knockback. the Divine avenger is still fun for its room clearing 3 holo blades. it might be higher if it wasnt' usesless against the wall. Here's hoping the GRan faust gets the DA treatment.

Gun Charges:
1: Biohazzard/Neutralizer
2: Valiance
3: Sentenza/Argent Peacemaker
4: Callahan/Iron Slug
5: Blitz Needle/Plague Needle

again ordered by the ones I have most fun charging. nothing In my opinion beats charging my Biohazzard or my neutralizer. I would argue its the most creative gun in the game and why the biohazzard was my first five star. I love the earth shaking explosions you can make. and since I recently made a neutralizers. graveyards and fsc are that much more entertaining. The valiance charge is a lot of fun to me. While it is low on style points, it makes up for that in its powerful knock back. My valiance has a ctr vh uv on it which I Was lucky enough to get for pretty cheap from a guild mate looking to get rid of his blaster. The sentenza and AP can be a bit cumbersome to charge if used at the wrong time and it could be argued to nix the clipin favore of just holo eagle shot, but I still find it fun to unload into a group of trees, skellies, jellies, or chromas. I was thinking today it would be awesome if we got a pure peircing snarbolax version that fires a holo snarbo or shoots in an arc like him. Something like the BTB but shoots accross a long distance. I have a callahan and I love to charge that. the animation is funand feels powerful. most people blitz a trojan but I find it more fun to pop a large bullet in his back. All Damage aside, I love the Blitz needle and the storm of bullets it rains down upon its foes. I can't help but feel the plague should be shadow so I can take it to jelly kingdom.

sure the supernova and polaris are fun to use but their charges are relatively uninspired. simply a fully expanded bullet. It could have been cool if the charge sent out a tornado that you see in the explosion XD. also to note Drivers are Numbers six close to the blitz. Not a lot of style points but I love the ricochet and "trick" shots of getting multiple ricochets in a bunch of enemies. I love them so much I have all he drivers.

sorry if this doesn't help at all and if its hard to read, but this is my list of what I use frequently and have the most fun with no based on raw damage. I have two elite sword focus modules because I like charging so much. may consider at least one gun ctr module. Enjoy your Chaos :D

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 12:24
#11
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Etharaes
@Sireez

If you have full chaos you can get max ctr on any level 10 weapon. If you want to add trinkets, get damage or asi ones.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 12:40
#12
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Bella-Donna
boop

Hey, everyone with Biohazard plus c42 = annihilation. i suggest getting a catalyzer.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:02
#13
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Bluencool
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brandish charges.

-safest charge to use
-extremely powerful+strong status effect
-despite the knockback or the freeze effect of the glacius, it doesn't ruin the game for teammates

the easisest way to play the game, sucks against nothing but fiends.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 11:04
#14
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Oatmonster
Lick Number 58425

@Bluencool, I've safely killed fiends with my Silent Nightblade.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 11:28
#15
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Thunder-The-Bright
@ sireez

why do I not read posts entirely. still, I'll keep this. but this is a dumb action.
wild hunting blade is cool, but it's not that you use the charge every 5 seconds because it's good. in fact, it's suicide. it is powerful, but nothing compared to the prcticity of faust/avenger or troika line.
same for catalizer series: ok, it is powerful but it has a few uses. it's way better the antigua series.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 11:28
#16
Fleet-Miss-Gun's picture
Fleet-Miss-Gun
Actually Antigua charge

Actually Antigua charge sucks.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 11:30
#17
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Thunder-The-Bright
fleet, the 5* charge can deal

fleet, the 5* charge can deal tons of damage. and the others are not so bad. it's only aiming and timing.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 11:31
#18
Fleet-Miss-Gun's picture
Fleet-Miss-Gun
But the regular 6 shots does

But the regular 6 shots does way more dps.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 11:33
#19
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
it exists something called

it exists something called knockback. and this makes useful a lot of charges.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 11:39
#20
Fleet-Miss-Gun's picture
Fleet-Miss-Gun
But knockbacks are

But knockbacks are useless!

It annoys parties very hard.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 12:29
#21
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Oatmonster
Lick Number 58425

Wow, the "grammar" in that argument almost makes me grateful for Quakeman's capitalization. Almost.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 15:07
#22
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Thunder-The-Bright
Fleet, knockbacks are useless

Fleet, knockbacks are useless only if you spam. if you aim and have some good team, you can put a charge of this one into an avanger /grand faust one, which probably kills the monster.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 17:18
#23
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Zeddy

The DPS of antigua's charge vs regular attacks is kind of on the arguable side. The regular attack is a single-target deal (though you can hit multiple monsters due to what I consider a glitch), while the owl penetrates enemies and covers an area. The owl can also multihit as it pushes the monsters along.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 18:21
#24
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Hortumalx
The best charge attack is by

The best charge attack is by far belongs to the Ban Stick. 3 360 degree rotations, split normal/piercing damage, and it hurts your party members as well. What more could a trollaris spammer want?

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 08:30
#25
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Thunder-The-Bright
@ hort

the wiki says only one rotation, and it's not a weapon you can get, so i would not count it.

Sat, 02/09/2013 - 19:58
#26
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Shotjeer
Anyways...

Catagorizing

Good 5* Sword Charges
Combuster/Blizzbrand/Acheron/VOltedge
FoV(Make sure you have Remedies though)
DA is good in FSC
Sundraska and Triglav

Good 5* gun charges
Blitz is OP
Catalyzer line because duh
Valaince
Callahan and Iron Slug

Good Bombs
Shiver
AoA
Nitro
Vortex
Meh...Dark Retribution. Works really well against JK
DBB

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