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Mon, 02/04/2013 - 00:52
Hydroplush's picture
Hydroplush

I've always been very interested in the Owlites, one of the ancient races which inhabited Cradle. With the release of the new Kat sets, there was also released a lot of back-story, not only of the Owlites, but of their rivals, the Kat tribe. So I thought that I might as well make a post listing Owlite and Kat facts, as well as some speculation on what seem to infer or whatnot.

Tell me if I miss anything, both from this update or from past ones. I definitely forgot the names of two Kat factions and their heroes.

- Owlites at a race of possibly bird-like creature from the past.
- They, or at least some of them, were scholars.
- They possessed or learned the ability to manipulate energy, which was either called or simply thought of as magic.
- They or their scholar faction owned/built a large building complex called the Owlite High Academy of Magics.
- After the demise of other Owlites, the Academy fell into disrepair. It is renamed Candlestick Keep by the Spiral Knights.
- There was a tower located within the academy called the Grey Feather Tower.
- Residing in the Grey Feather Tower are the Grey Feather Sages. possibly the leaders of the Owlites, they are referred to in the descriptions of the Grey Feather Mantle and the Grey Owlite Shield, which they possibly wielded.
- They owned an important book, the Book of Grey Feathers.
- Several sets of Armor are used by the Spiral Order which have a connection to the Owlites, The Divine set, the Grey feather set, and the Chaos set.
- They are now extinct, but there are rumors that some still exist.
- There was a race of possibly cat like creatures that existed at the same time as the Owlites.
- They called themselves the Kat Tribe.
- They were rivals or enemies of the Owlites.
- At some point they besieged the Academy.
- They had several factions: the Kat Clawers, and two others.
- The Kat Classes are front-line fighters.
- A famous Kat Clawer was called Scraith, and he was the first Kat to advance over the walls of the Academy.
- There are two others, each representing the Gun weapon type and the Bomb type.
- The hero of the Gunners killed the Grey Feather Sages.
- The hero of the Bombers burned down the gates of the Academy.
- Their overall leader, or at least a very prominent Kat, was named Margel.
- Margel opened the Book of Grey Feathers, triggering an event known as the Kataclysm.
- This eventually led to the all but certain extinction of the Owlites, and the transformation of the Kats into the wandering spirits that we know now today.
- They wander Candlestick keep and other areas as restless spirits.
- Some late were transformed, but still retain the ability to communicate, and intelligent thought processes, assuming the regular kind do not have them.
- They are called Mewkats, and usually reside in Moorcroft Manor.
- Recently, feral Kats raided the archives of Moorcroft Manor, and after eating tomes, possibly gained twisted Owlite magicks, turning into Black Kats.
- It is possible to summon Margel's spirit back into the realm of the living, possibly multiple times. He appears as a large Black Kat with a curse symbol on his forehead.

EDIT:
- The Kat Seekers were associated with guns, and described as 'Skillful Grenadiers"
- Their hero was Preowa, who shot down the Sages
- The Kat Hissers were associated with Bombs, and described as 'Unstable Bombers'
- Their hero was Torair, who may have blown himself up along with the gates of the academy.

Any thoughts, speculation, or stuff you think I missed?

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 01:01
#1
Happyapathy's picture
Happyapathy
Here's another thought, what

Here's another thought, what are Grimalkins and why do they wander Candlestick keeps? What does the Scarlet Fortress have to do with kats?

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 01:40
#2
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
Grimalkins are a sort of

Grimalkins are a sort of "Lich" creature, a Kat that consumed so much magical content and grew so evil that when they died, they came back as a shadowy essence of malice hunting the living.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 05:21
#3
Artistbma's picture
Artistbma
Maybe the Scarlet Fortress is

Maybe the Scarlet Fortress is where the kats lived before they attacked the academy.

PS: The OHAM. HAHAHAH.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 06:17
#4
Doctorspacebar's picture
Doctorspacebar

I vaguely remember the Scarlet Fortress having some Almirian tapestries. Perhaps some of the Kat tribe was investigating Almire? Or maybe they were squatting in an old burned-out Almirian castle, like the Royal Jelly. Maybe they used it as a base of operations against the Owlites?

Or maybe they just floated in after the Kataclysm.

PS: The Gunner faction was the Kat Seekers and the Bomber faction was the Kat Hissers, with heroes Preowa and Torair, respectively.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 06:25
#5
Dmatter's picture
Dmatter
margrel was officaly the

margrel was officaly the unluckiest kat ever, remember that.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 09:08
#6
Narfle's picture
Narfle
Haven't gotten my hands on

Haven't gotten my hands on 'da book' in order to battle the new pseudo-boss, but from the videos that have sprung up (and the fact that beating it drops the black kat hat), I'm assuming that the critter you fight is what's left of Margrel? That would mean that Grimalkins might be other kats, transformed by opening the Book of Grey Feathers, that went on to wipe out the rest of the tribe? Maybe?

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 09:26
#7
Happyapathy's picture
Happyapathy
So the Owlites were once a

So the Owlites were once a race of beings who had mastered control of elemental powers who were eventually hunted down and wiped out by the Kat Tribes, however legend/rumors suggest that some may still survive...hmm...

Avatar: The Last Owlite

I just had too...

Anyone notice that the knights knowledge of the existence of Owlites seems to predate the Skylark crashing on Cradle? Does this mean the Knights knew of or had contact with the Owlites (maybe even the Kats) before their world was absorbed by Cradle?

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 09:44
#8
Merethif's picture
Merethif
Actually Divine and the Chaos

Actually Divine and the Chaos sets don't have connection to Owlite race.

As for the Kats in Scarlet Fortress. Remember that Cradle is artificial construction made of shattered pieces of other worlds patched together. Those pieces are connected to each other and often groups of monsters migrates from place to place, leaving their "home piece". Kats may not be native to Scarlet Fortress, as they may not be native to Dark City or Gloaming Wildwoods. They may have just "leaked" from Candlestick Keep to haunt other places.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 10:21
#9
Aumir's picture
Aumir
Also

More about Kats: For them, explosive weaponry are just guns as seen in the Kat Eye Mask and Cowl descriptions.

> 4*: An impressive mask instilled with the might of Kat Seekers, the skillful grenadiers of the Kat Tribe.
> 5*: A magnificently crafted cowl said to resemble the Kat Tribe hero hero, Preowa, whose artillery silenced the Grey Feather Tower Sages.

Also, Kats didn't seem to bother designing bombs that didn't involve inmolating themselves, look at his "bomb" hero:

>5*: A magnificently crafted cowl said to resemble the Kat Tribe hero hero, Torair, who clung to the gates of the Owlite High Academy of Magicks as both it and his explosives burned.

That "it" should be "he" most likely too. But yeah, gunners used grenades, and bombers inmolated themselves.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 13:33
#10
Artistbma's picture
Artistbma
Well the it could be mean the

Well the it could be mean the gates...

@Happy

Didn't we learn all we know about the kats and owlites from the monsters at Moorcroft?

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 16:04
#11
Spold's picture
Spold

Gunner

Gunslinger*

I'm sorry but I cannot resist correcting anyone who says gunner.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 16:08
#12
Merethif's picture
Merethif
@Spold

@Spold, Why do you think Gunslinger is correct form and Gunner is incorrect?

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 16:40
#13
Spold's picture
Spold

I've seen the definition of gunner, it didn't relate to gunslinger. People correct grammar all of the time and agree with those people however when I do it people don't like it. Calling gunslingers gunners is like calling bombers soccer players.

Gunner isn't so bad if you look at how much people say swordie which means swordfish. Now that really gets on my nerves, I probably make an entire paragraph on why swordie isn't correct but now I just correct people who say gunner. I used to make points about how its not gunner but after seeing SWORDIE, I knew that this was way worse than gunner.

Some people think that adding the suffix -er always means that the word describes someone using the item that comes before -er. I'm not saying adding -er is never correct but some people think of it that way. Which gets on my nerves. They didn't say sworder which didn't sound right, if they said sworder it would definitely be a lot better than calling them swordfish.

Only 1.5% of the community, I BET YOU, knows that they're really called gunslingers.

Shall I continue?

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 16:26
#14
The-Rawrcake's picture
The-Rawrcake
They are commonly called

They are commonly called gunners by many players. And they have been for 14 months, you must be new. I cannot believe some hoity toity people think they are worth so much that they are able to go around making changes to the way we talk to fit their desires. If we were obviously grammatically incorrect, I would understand. But we aren't.

Taken from google......

Gunslinger - A man who carries a gun and shoots well.

Gunner - A serviceman who operates or specializes in guns, in particular. It's a freaking word, look it up.

"Oh my god - no way - the game calls us gunslingers, yet the players use the more modernized term gunner, and I cannot believe this because they do not have exactly the same meaning! I am so frustrated and am going to correct people - because everyone likes that - for the good of the community!"

You sound like someone who goes around telling people to say "Handgun" instead of "Gun" because they are called "Handguns" by the developers.

They both deal with guns, get over yourself. Nobody here can say that they want you here correcting us, or here at all. Leave. Bye. Please.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 16:28
#15
Juances's picture
Juances

Actually the term "gunslinger" mainly refers to outlaws, a criminal. More related with cowboys and the wild west.
Thats why the armor is called "gunslinger". But we are not that.

A person that shoots a gun is called shooter or gunner. My dictionary says that.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 16:30
#16
The-Rawrcake's picture
The-Rawrcake
Thank you. "Derp derp herp

Thank you.

"Derp derp herp guys it call a bombslinger, i no let all say bomber, because adding "er" mean it NO A WORD!"

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 16:37
#17
Spold's picture
Spold

I googled gunner and the majority of definitions don't even relate to guns that I found.

If they do relate to guns they're about using large militarized and artillery guns, not handguns.

I never said that it wasn't a word. I said that it had its own definition so that means that I think it's a word.

Nobody here can say that they want you here correcting us

Okay, people correct grammar and most people don't appreciate bad grammar and people like it when they correct it but now you're like this when I correct a word? Okay.

They can both deal with guns but it's not the same type of gun were talking about. If it were to be gunner, there would be a guy using a large militarized range weapon not a handgun.

You sound like someone who goes around telling people to say "Handgun" instead of "Gun" because they are called "Handguns" by the developers.

I don't get your comparison. A handgun is a type of gun so I don't have an issue with that but gunner however is not synonymous to gunslinger in anyway I can see it.

I search gunner and I find this. I search gunslinger and I find this. Those are two different types of gun users.

People appreciate people correcting others however when it comes to me correcting a word like that you get angry with me.

I searched gunner and I found many definitions different from gunslingers so I guess none of us have proof of being correct or incorrect but I believe that gunslinger is correct due to what I've searched.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 16:44
#18
Spold's picture
Spold

@The-Rawrcake

Calling them bombslingers still doesn't say anything either. I said it isn't always like that when you add -er at the end. I never said it's never like that.

The majority of the definitions I find don't have synonymous definitions to gunslinger.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 16:46
#19
The-Rawrcake's picture
The-Rawrcake
"Those are two different

"Those are two different types of gun users."

Go to google.

Type "gunner meaning"

This step is important - read. Then - interpret without looking at pictures. Yes, it is more modernized and used more often today, you can expect to find different pictures.

No, they do not have to be exact synonyms.

This step is even more important - Stop "correcting" people.

"people like it when they correct it"

Not when it isn't bad grammar. And heck - not even when it is bad grammar! It is just a human relations skill that you need to learn in order to not come off as awkward + uppity.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 16:48
#20
Spold's picture
Spold

I did read. While doing my "research", I decided to look at some images also.

I also googled gunner and I didn't get the definition you listed. I googled gunslinger however it said this. I need you to look at the synonyms also. There's only one and it's not gunner.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 16:51
#21
Spold's picture
Spold

Oh, I found the definition of gunner. Conversation ended. Sorry dude, I won't correct anyone who says gunner again.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 17:08
#22
Merethif's picture
Merethif
Epic off-topic

And now I feel guilty for asking...

But seriously I was asking because I'm not native English speaker and the difference wasn't clear to me - especially since SK used term gunner much earlier then term gunslinger). Suffix -er isn't something natural for me either. My question was really out of curiosity, not flaming or complaining about your post. Now I did some research and check google translator and how it translate gunner into my native language and I totally see you point.

And actually I'm one of those weird people, Rawrcake mentioned, that use term hanguns instead of guns, but I'm far from correcting anyone ;-)

Plus, I never, ever use term swordie. I call them fencers :-D

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 17:10
#23
Happyapathy's picture
Happyapathy
I consider myself a gunner,

I consider myself a gunner, if that settles anything...

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 17:14
#24
Spold's picture
Spold

From what The-Rawrcake researched it said that a gunner was a soldier that uses guns however gunslinger relates to someone who specializes guns also so I guess I can consider them synonymous. The only reason that got me in this argument is because I've always heard that gunner was a definition of a guy in the military that specializes in guns.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 18:30
#25
Hargbeast's picture
Hargbeast
Are the Owlites and Kats

Are the Owlites and Kats supposed to be the two rivals of Almire or something?

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 19:58
#26
Hydroplush's picture
Hydroplush
This is about Owlites and Kats, not terms for people who use gun

While I apoligize for using the incorrect term (I wrote this at 2:00 AM), and while I admit Gunslinger does sound alot cooler than plain gunner, my intent was just to ask about the gun-centric and bomb-centric Kat headgear. If you would like to argue about that, please do so somewhere else.

Thank you Doctorspacebar! I couldn't remember the names ^.^

While I might be inclined to agree with you, Merethif, I feel that the design of the three 5* Magic sets are just too closely related to not all have to do with Owlites. Perhaps the Chaos Cloak, or something like it, was worn by the less-desirable Owlite scholars, not really evil ones, but less desirable ones? Or maybe the Divine set was worn by their religous leaders.

Honestly Hargbeast, I think that's very likely. I could see a Cradle with rivalries and peace treaties between Almire, the Owlites, the Kats, and perhaps a Gremlin or Stranger nation.

Mon, 02/04/2013 - 21:06
#27
Traevelliath's picture
Traevelliath

I had the impression that the Scarlet Fortress was tied to the Almirian lore, not Kat lore. Almire was besieged by two neightboring/larger nations, which is what prompted Vanaduke to make a deal with some shady gods and became all fiery/evil. Vanaduke then proceeded to obliterate the two kingdoms. The Scarlet Fortress is all that remains of one kingdom, while a Royal Jelly is squatting in the remains of the other (Royal Jelly Palace).

I'm pretty sure you can find the names of the other Kat Tribes and their respective heroes. I'll edit this when I open up the game and get to moorcroft...

EDIT*
Gunslinger:
- "Kat Seekers, the skillful grenadiers of the Kat Tribe"
- "Kat Tribe Hero, Preowa"
Bomber:
- "Kat Hissers, the unstable bombers of the Kat Tribe"
- "Kat Tribe Hero, Torair" (Implied that he blew himself up while blowing up the gates of the Owlite High Academy of Magicks)

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 07:17
#28
Leafblader's picture
Leafblader
moo

Scarlet fortress is not a part of almire.
The flags in almire and scarlet fortress are different.
Royal jelly palace has the same flag as scarlet fortress.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 08:59
#29
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
@leaf

as jk palace is an old almirian fortress (I beleive / I saw written somewhere), scarlet fortress may be so too. your info just gets this stronger.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 12:37
#30
Happyapathy's picture
Happyapathy
@Hydroplush

Technically there is no Kingdom/Nation of Almire anymore, not as functioning state at least, whatever it was is now simply a fiery wasteland populated by the poor undead sods who use to be its citizens and I don't think Vanaduke is in any state of mind to sit down with peace talks with anyone. The curse that befell Almire pre-dates its absorption into Cradle, and all that did was give Vanaduke more 'beasts' to protect his beloved Kingdom from, he has no rivalries and qualms with anyone, he hates everybody, and if it weren't for a certain recon module no one would have any reason to come to Almire and would do their best to avoid it all together and anything to do with it, there is no diplomacy to be done or can be done with whatever is left of the Kingdom.

The Owlites are gone (as far as we know at least), and so are the Kats, or at least whoever they were before the event known as the Kataclysm where the Owlites were wiped out by the Kat Tribes who then unintentionally brought about their own end in a great big head-on mass extinction between two belligerent races. What we see are only the ghosts and echoes of what both these races once were, with the exception of a small enclave where some sentient mewkats host business conferences for Devillites and sell tickets for a train that never comes the Kats have have been reduced to ghosts who wander the the halls of where they had their final victory and met their own end.

Like Almire, I actually think the curse of the Kataclysm occurred prior to when the planet the Kats and Owls once inhabited was absorbed by Cradle, along with all the lore and tragedy that happened there, and much like Almire there really isn't any sort of Kat state/nation/tribe left to make any diplomacy with for the most part as all but a few have been reduced to mindless belligerence against everything. Black Kats are not a Kat 'faction' of any sort, Pembrooke at Moorcroft states they are mindless cursed souls who simply devour magical energy without any real cause or purpose.

I started writing about Stranger and Gremlin relations, but the size of that topic would pretty much be worth a thread on its own.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:54
#31
Thunderskull's picture
Thunderskull
An occurrence...

Is the book in the occurrence at owlite keep mission (rank 9-1) related to Almire? I remember a book being there talking about Almire falling to the infernos 1000 years ago which probably means the kataclysm happened a long time after the fall of Almire.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 16:54
#32
Hydroplush's picture
Hydroplush
Well,

We don't really have anything to support whether or not they did or did not have peace talks or diplomatic relations. Remember, this is all Speculation, and none of it is confirmed.

I never said that Black Kats were any faction by their own. Black Kats are just random Kats who happened to come by some Black Magic and become extra-powerful.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:00
#33
Thunderskull's picture
Thunderskull
Black Kats

I think that black kats are actually those of the kat tribe who were closer in vicinity to Margrel when he caused the kataclysm.

Tue, 02/05/2013 - 23:24
#34
Xairathan's picture
Xairathan
Arf

Well I mentioned in my guild Mumble that I thought Margel could have been 'summoned' from within the Conjuring Kat. Just a side theory of mine that I don't think holds any credence but might as well be spouted:

Margel, the unluckiest of Kats, sparks the Kataclysm
Whatever powers that be, to avoid seeing this immense power, seal it away (either in the Conjuring Kat or somewhere far far away)
Conjuring Kat either: Summons Margel (thus invalidating my theory) or is actually the 'sealed' form of Margel that subconsciously wants to be released. Thus the tome, thus summoning Margel from within the Conjuring Kat.

Feel free to ignore this btw. Just my 2 pickles.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 00:44
#35
Feline-Grenadier's picture
Feline-Grenadier
Huh

Actually, the curse seals may prove that bit right.

Anyways, shouldn't this be moved to Treasure VAult?

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 00:45
#36
Feline-Grenadier's picture
Feline-Grenadier
...

2x post

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 01:04
#37
Traevelliath's picture
Traevelliath

We're having a general discussion about something pertaining to Spiral Knights, so I'd say this thread doesn't need to be moved at all.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 04:05
#38
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
Double puppies

We're discussing the official storyline in the game, not making up our own, so it belongs here.

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