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Don't use the Spiral Wiki.

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Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:11
The-Rawrcake's picture
The-Rawrcake

Sounds funny, especially because OOO promotes the wiki itself, but sadly, it is updated by the community.

Sound great? Hah, no. It is terribly biased, and will influence you towards a certain playstyle which can cause you to dislike the game and quit (should you not like that playstyle).

Not to mention many claims are made that have absolutely no support behind them, typically in sections that the players feel are not worthy of tests and deserve weak, meaningless observations rather than factual information.

"So what. The players can edit it. Don't like it? Change it."

Hah! Right. Don't like my change? Revert it.

To sum this up: a wiki controlled by the community will usually be biased. Without control by OOO, you will end up being misinformed and, in rare cases, mislead.

My suggestion to new recruits: take advice from players on the forums by posting questions on the forums until changes to the wiki are made - don't worry, the minority cannot be held back from assisting you by posting on the forums. We will see the biased information posted, quote the people saying it, then refute what they say in order to assist you :)

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:33
#1
Bopp's picture
Bopp
surprising

Your view is that the wiki is biased, but forum postings are not? This makes no sense to me.

All of your criticisms of the wiki apply even more strongly to the forums. On the forums, claims are often made and advice given without supporting evidence. On the forums, there is a strong "group think" that steers newbies toward certain loadouts. Three Rings doesn't control the quality of forum posts any more than it controls the quality of the wiki. Furthermore, forum posts are often rebutted 20 posts later. Threads are abandoned. A newbie might find a discussion of (say) Argent Peacemaker being bad because of "split damage", and not realize that the information is out of date.

The wiki isn't perfect, but at least there's the possibility of revising according to consensus. Now, there is a problem on some wikis of "wiki bullies" who revert good edits made by users who are trying to fix things. On Wikipedia, a novice editor will sometimes get discouraged because administrators enforce Wikipedia policies, that are crucial to how Wikipedia functions, but that the novice doesn't understand. The Spiral Knights wiki doesn't have much policy, so that's not much of an issue for us. If you feel that you've been treated unfairly on the wiki, then comment on the article's talk page, or even start a thread in the Wiki Editors forum about it.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:41
#2
Spold's picture
Spold

That's a positive one for Bopp.

The forums are biased. I think the wiki is much reliable than people on the forums, because by the information it has, you can easily tell that some imbecile won't just randomly edit it. People who have an operative brain edit it.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:43
#3
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

This only applies to user guides. Don't promote "dont read the wiki".

Monster and weapon pages have all accurate hard facts without subjetivity.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 17:49
#4
Traevelliath's picture
Traevelliath

I use the wiki for the facts it has... Idk where you get this opinion stuff, but I don't see how saying the materials required, the damage type, the alchemy line, and the appearance of various weapons can have any bias.

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 18:38
#5
Terra-Necro's picture
Terra-Necro
Just ignore rawr. I bet he's

Just ignore rawr. I bet he's just trolling <3

Wed, 02/06/2013 - 21:26
#6
Bopp's picture
Bopp
almost a satire

The original post is almost a satire on how newbies constantly post the same questions to the forums, when they could find the answers by reading the wiki (or searching the forums). But it doesn't read quite like that. Hmm. A troll seems likely. I'm a gullible fellow.

Thu, 02/07/2013 - 06:43
#7
Fleet-Miss-Gun's picture
Fleet-Miss-Gun
Simple.

How about we'll just agree to graveyard this post or throw it into a garbage bin?

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 12:33
#8
Lanieu's picture
Lanieu
Yeah bad post. Toss it out

Yeah bad post. Toss it out like Fleet Miss suggests.

Fri, 02/08/2013 - 13:47
#9
Oatmonster's picture
Oatmonster
Lick Number 58425

I was under the impression that a wiki was by definition, edited by the community?

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 02:12
#10
Productioninferno's picture
Productioninferno
You're funny, no seriously

I've made Vog Cub Coat and all other things and now I can do vanaduke WAY more easier... how do I know Vog is good for vana? Wiki... If you haven't read the wiki posts.. they are based on the game.. and it's true, not misleading, idiot...
so... what I'm saying is... BUCK YOU...
the wiki has a lot of useful tips, and I got better at the game because of it...
please..please...please..PLEASE at least try to read the guides in the wiki and actually READ it... I bet you're blind :P

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