Sorry I mean expansions.

If you don't mind...

I'd like to see your Guild Hall.

What's your Guild?

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Well, if there is another GM or officer who bought it with/without your permission, then it is still up to you (considering you are the GM yourself) to be responsible due to your poor management skills in promoting people.

takign care of a guild is a chore , many people just make a guild to be in comand ... and for my own good they fail ,. thier member loose interest and all they loose all thier progress , if you cant make a and maintain a good guild management and colaboration , you betetr just give up on the guild .. sometimes its betetr bein member than bein gm just to have the commands when you cant even deal witht he responsabilities that come with.

if you consider this message and wanna merge with a new guild who just got its trainign hall , we looking for new peoples :D

but seriously 25 members giving 1k per week make it up to 25k a week .. if you cant manage this then your guild have a serious problem.
not because your the leaer you have to pay everything, unless you realy want something

OOO does not force you to make the guild, so if you can stop blaming them? i seen the low number of people in the credit and thie model / texture /game mechanics are just whats inspired me (along with tf2) i spend 25 000$ to take 2 years of colege to in 3d art and programation and geme/level desing

Pro tips for OP:

1. take advantage of that recent upkeep cost reduction and keep your Guild Hall small. A fully expanded 1F GH only costs 13k per week now. (That's like 2 FSC runs per week, which requires 100 mist.)
2. you can expand to unlock furniture, buy them and collapse your GH to a more affordable level. The closer to upkeep time (which is every Wednesday 4:03 PM EST / 1:03 PM PST), the cheaper the expansion;
3. pay Three Rings $2.95 to create a P2P crafting alt (so it won't share the mist on your main). Have it learns a 2* recipe (e.g. mist bomb, alchemer, etc) and have your guild members donate mats for crafting. e.g. those excessive light and dark shards your members obtain from FSC. With mist crafting, you are already guaranteed a minimum of 10.5k (= 7 x 2 x 750) income per week just by vending the stuff you crafted. If you are lucky and get a good UV on the craft (e.g. CTR Med or higher on a mist bomb), you can easily fetch 100k+ and that covers upkeep for a modest GH for a few months.

TL ; DR. Read the rules, learn the system and be creative. You are very welcome.

@Kitty-Softpaws

:3 you seem angry kid

i love how people see upkeep / room and furniture price for a SINGLE PLAYER point of view ... you have no idea how easy it is to obtain guild stuff when you split the cost with EVERYONE, its onlya very small fraction that you can make in 1~5 vana run

and by 5 i mean month wise like training hall who cost 980k cr

980k / 98 members = 10k only EACH

easy done

@Kitty-Softpaws that was a matter of speaking , you can just do 3 random gate t3 runs to equalise 2 fsc runs .. or else you can just do shadows lair to win even more cr than the split cost key cost (exept for snarby and iq)

yes it is , if you know how to manage your cr to make profit and using your mats .. that take a couple of trial and error .. btu what game would be working if everyone knew the triks? you need to make your own pattern to discover how to get on the top of people by doing the same work they do with workign and legit techniques ... so far vanaduke spam is a legit way to double your ce

twins and jelly weapons unbound and selling is alway a good way to make quick money

^F2P
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v PEOPLE WITH $

and the most powerfull ranting way giving you endless money and ce by still bein legit for a whole month .... elevator pass .. you cant care less of helping people and going anywhere .. ITS FREE!

the best 6$ per month i ever invested in a game ... not like those 1 time use items like tf2 or monday night combat and dlc stuff from other games

even och worth it ... free 5 star hammer and bomb .. 1600 ce saved right there for even less than 1600 ce in $

Stahp! The issue has been resolved, please move to another thread to set fire.

guild hall fee is as bad as unremovable accessories imo, but its a good crown sink, no?

Again, if people haven't tried, please do a GH publish and see if your upkeep would lower. For a modest guild with 6-10 people active, 13-25.5k per week (which gives you a 1-1.5 floors high GH) isn't that bad. People may have a hard time forking out CR but they usually don't have a problem with giving you their excessive mats (which often measures in thousands). Convert those mats into CR (AH, mist crafting, vending) and half of that upkeep should solve itself.

What to do with the other half? You can repeat what you did with the first half, farm whatever you like, go friend the elites in big guilds, sell your minerals, buy cheap mats from your local beggars and resell for profit, etc. Seerously there are money making guides around. Read them, learn them, practice them?

It's good that the Dev. (Gyre-Of-Guile?) did listen to the concern of the smaller guilds and make the small GH more affordable. However, it would be good courtesy to disclose the other stuff that you have changed so guild treasurers can do proper and predictable budgeting. e.g. change of 5F pre-requisite now requires an extra 4F expansion, Snipes no longer unlocked by 4F.

Can't update my upkeep because my guild is in default and I refuse to remove it from default if I can't have only 1 floor and an auction house.

Everyone (well, almost everyone) likes to be in charge. But if everyone started his own guild, then there wouldn't be anyone to populate these guilds. This was somewhat the situation before the guild hall update: many, many weak guilds.

The point of the guild hall update was to make running a decent guild expensive, so that not everybody could do it alone. Instead, we have to team up, and maybe even combine guilds, to maintain a decent guild. The result is fewer, stronger guilds, and hence a more meaningful role for guilds in the game (at least in theory).

Or you have people like my friend and I who have a personal guild and quit dealing with guild hall expansions because they really offer nothing of value. Hence why it is still in default. If we really wanted it out of default I'd take my 600k crowns and 80K ce and pay the 50k crown upkeep.

Two 2* equips for 4-5k cr? You mean 4-5k cr per week from vendoring these?

So after reading this post i'm aware of the potential cost but i was curious of the math on a guild upkeep cost if say it were fairly closed doors with only 4-6 members? also can one just pay this with energy?