Spiral Knights - im thinking OOO SHOULD MAKE A PROMO for the Muslim people

im thinking OOO SHOULD MAKE A PROMO for the Muslim people

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Tue, 02/19/2013 - 05:06

Zainj

How come the is no promos for the muslim people when they gather for E.I.D? there is one for christian people ( christmas) chinese people ( year of the dragon) im just trying to tell the OOO can the muslim people get a promo for once instead of being put to one side? i know we have some people who are muslims here like me i just want a promo for us something to do with E.I.D or something for the past 2 years ive seen no promos for any of us muslim people im just asking the OOO can you make us one our next celebration is in within 6-7months within then can u try to make us a promo for E.i.d or something plz.

I would Like someone from the OOO to respond to this please.

Also i wrote this in a hurry.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 05:16

Softhead

What about fouth of July?

Or Rememberance Day?

Or hannukah?

Or Kwanza?

I'll tell you why.

Because it's not universal.

Atheists do christmas as well, and easter, and there's Vanetines day, again, which is universal. And halloween.

There are several chirstian holidays that aren't used.

-_-

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 05:18

Shamanalah

my 2 cents

IDK if it's racist but when you are clueless about the religion, it's kinda hard to put a promotion for it.

Why don't you suggest one? I'm sure if you put a decent suggestion about it they may consider it ^ ^

Calling people racist left and right is not a good idea... You could say that a lot of religion did not have their promotions... We got no promotions for Canadian, is that racism? IDK where to draw the line but if you want a Muslim promotion, you should propose one instead of claiming one.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 05:23

Little-Juances

Beside there are plenty of religions in the world. If we celbrate them all, every week would be special.

Note that we didn't celebrate christmas, it was "winterfest".
They tried to separate it from christians and gave it a generic name.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 05:44

Zeddy

Winterfest has nothing to do with Christianity. It's an inoffensive, generic, winter-related holiday much like the holiday simply known as "Holidays" in America. Halloween is done, nothing to do with Christianity. Valentine's Day and Fourth of July were done, and by this point it should be obvious that Spiral Knights is not tied to a religion in particular; it's tied to America. These are all American holidays. I suspect the only reason they don't do Thanksgiving is because no enemies are easily reskinned into turkeys. (Snipes?)

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 06:16

Nattss

The winter holidays, winter

The winter holidays, winter solstice celebrations pre-date Christianity and Islam, and are not religious in nature, but basically a party to cheer you up at the darkest time of the year and usher in the sun returning. OOO were right to do winterfest and keep religion out of the game.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 06:25

Lanieu

@Shamalamamalamama...no one

@Shamalamamalamama...no one called anyone racist...

Perhaps a 'desert' promotion might be better instead of specifically bringing in a religion. Desert armor/weapons...nothing reskinned....would be cool.(No turbans.)

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 06:27

Quakeman

no and i wont develop my

no and i wont develop my point to not sound racist

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 06:33

Zainj

All i want is a promo for

All i want is a promo for something which is kinda linked to muslim beliefs like a promo new weapons or something for the muslim community that all i kinda want tbh thanks for the feedback guys

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 06:38

Worknplay

I don't think it's a bad

I don't think it's a bad idea, but it would be a nightmare for online game companies to make events for every single cultural event; there would be events everyday, pretty much.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 07:05

#10

Canine-Vladmir

OOO Rings HQ

Theres centered in San Francisco.
They do American or Universal Holidays.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:21

#11

Immortous

Ant-loaf

Thank you Vlad! ^

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:24

#12

Ubernerd

*Sigh* Really? Allow me to be blunt for a minute here...

No. No, they shouldn't. And people shouldn't think that they get to have special treatment just because they have a different religion. They never catered to any other religion (no, not even Christianity), and they're not going to cater to yours. Winterfest != Christmas. Winter holidays are common throughout the world. Besides, Christmas was originally a pagan holiday and is widely celebrated by non-Christians. People should also learn to put suggestions where suggestions belong: in the Suggestions forum.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:35

#13

Little-Juances

Let's put it in perspective, is there a muslim game that teaches christian beliefs?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:38

#14

Retequizzle

I could say something really

I could say something really uncouth here but I think I'll actually keep to myself on this one and just say it's a stupid idea. No one should get special holidays for their beliefs, and expecting special considerations to celebrate your holidays in a public setting where a vast majority would probably have absolutely no idea what it meant to begin with just opens up the main ways to being insulted, either through lack of oversight on OOO's part or through lack of consideration through the players' part.

tl;dr - No.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 09:13

#15

Krakob

I think this is a good idea. If we also honour my, among others', ancestors by having something like the Uppsalablot every four years. Nine men were sacrificed at every Uppsalablot. We could do that by deleting nine accounts! Of course, it wouldn't be fun unless they were active accounts, preferrably with as much CE and stuff in the Arsenal as possible.

Anyway, as said, there are no religious events and I appreciate that. I think many of us do. So no.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 09:30

#16

Shamanalah

my 2 cents

@ Lanieu the title of this Thread was something in the like of "I think OOO is racist towards Muslim people" and he soon changed it because it is not racist and like I mentioned. Suggesting one might happen instead of claiming one

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 09:54

#17

Chawkthree

Turban and veil promo ftw!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 10:23

#18

Shamanalah

my 2 cents

@ Chawkthree with a desert look on Haven, would love it. A promotional saber sword or something like that... :D

I can see a desert promotion happening...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 10:31

#19

Djawed

I'm a muslim. And despite i

I'm a muslim. And despite i like the idea, i think op the people are roght about there being 0 religious celebrations in the game, so thats not a legit argument to use bro. I mean yes it would be nice, but there's nothing strange or unfair about the fact there isnt one.

Now what i would like is some arabic exotic themed costumes :p. Dunno how that could be incorporated into spirals theme though

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 11:17

#20

Kagisnad-Il

We're an universally

We're an universally religious game now? o:

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:24

#21

Bopp

Djawed

Now what i would like is some arabic exotic themed costumes :p. Dunno how that could be incorporated into spirals theme though

The current themes include wizards (Magic Cloak), cowboys (Gunslinger), medieval European knights (Cobalt Helm), Renaissance fencers (tabards and chapeaus), ninjas (Acheron), modern demolition dudes (Demo), robots (Love Puppy helmet), and miscellaneous furries? I don't see why "Arabic costumes" shouldn't be added to this rich potpourri.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:25

#22

Canine-Vladmir

but...

Arabic Costume would look like any desert camo from any other non-Arabic nation?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:02

#23

Bopp

more traditional

I assumed that Djawed meant more traditional forms of dress. Look up Bedouin on Wikipedia. While you're at it, look up Janissary (although those aren't Arabs, as far as I understand).

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:27

#24

Murex

Uhh yeah...

Other religions didn't get their holidays celebrated as well. It wouldn't be fair.

Also a turban would be nice. I'd want one.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:15

#25

Klipik

please don't yell at me, what's E.I.D?

What everyone else said, if we celebrated every holiday we would never see normal haven again.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:18

#26

Aureate

...

Involving religion in the game will only ever lead to Trouble.
I have absolutely no care as to who or what you worship in real life as long as a) you don't forcibly drag me into it and b) you don't start sacrificing young virgins or stuff like that.

We do not have any religious events in the game. Winterfest is a generic holiday. Halloween has also been turned into a generic sort of holiday over the course of time. And many of the people who celebrate Chinese New Year have no idea about the deities behind the whole thing, including baking the Kitchen God cakes. I find the situation involving both of the latter two events to be fairly depressing, but that is the case nonetheless. If we include Muslim stuff, people will start to complain about the lack of Christian, Jewish, Hindi, Sikh and Pastafarianist things, and then we'd get into the whole kerfuffle about Orthodox and Roman Catholic. (Buddhists and Taoists would probably not complain because they're cool like that.)

Needless to say, I do not even want to go there.
There's a lot more I could probably add, but I will leave it at this:

Please leave religion out of the game.
Thank you.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:19

#27

Canine-Vladmir

the beginnings of a racy joke...

wait, Arabics have a holiday called E.I.D?
but if you do a anagram on it, you get I.E.D..... :O

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:20

#28

Spookington

So, let me get this straight...

Are you asking for something specifically MUSLIM, or for styles that take cues from the MIDDLE-EASTERN geographical area? "Muslim" =/= the Middle-East; It's the dominant religion of the region, but then again, there are huge populations of Muslims now in the UK and Europe. Not always synonymous.

It would be like saying you want more "Catholic" armor when instead you want armor inspired by Roman soldiers.

Assuming I'm right about all the above, I agree: +1 for possible middle-eastern armor and weapon designs. That could be cool, assuming there's room in this game for more weapons and armor than we currently already have without being redundant.

In case I'm wrong: then no. IMO, I'd want to keep SK secular of all religious ties and the game's setting free of polarizing modern-day/real-world connections.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:30

#29

Aureate

...he said Muslim.

If he said 'Arabic' or 'Malay' or something that actually made slightly more sense, I would be slightly more inclined to support it, but then I would also get equally grumpy at the fact that this is in the suggestions forum when it is not in fact a suggestion. But then again it got moved there from General Discussion and the OP probably wasn't really thinking of putting much detail in to start with. What kind of costumes would you even use to mark the end of Ramadan?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:47

#30

Grittle

Well Jagex is a British

Well Jagex is a British company and their game(s) celebrate Thanksgiving... (American Holiday)

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:52

#31

Lanieu

@Shamanala

Ohh gotcha, yeah was changed before I got here.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 15:33

#32

Klipik

hmm.

My comment got deleted. Guess I was right.

Thanks, forum mod <3

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 16:16

#33

Skyguarder

Proceeding the explosion...

If we make an E.I.D party, then players would demand to make other religious parties like a Greek party, french party, etc... The game can't handle all types of parties, so no offense. I'm not saying this idea is stupid and all, it's just that we can't fit every religious party in Spiral knights.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 16:19

#34

Klipik

oh yeah

also, -1.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 19:20

#35

Nunncitrus

religion in games=a bad time

not a good idea

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 20:17

#36

Dragneel-Wiki

Time for History lessons again

@Bopp :

Bedouin are like travelers that don't stay in one place for a long time. They go from place to place for water and food for their herds. They are scattered in the desert and may find a group of them inside the desert. But nowadays, most of the Bedouin moved to the cities and is living their. You can find many of them around the Middle-East, be it either in North Africa, or the Arabian Peninsula or even in Mesopotamia.
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The Janissary are something completely different than the Bedouin. When the Ottoman began to rise to power, they had many refugees from battles and wars, so they decided to take the young kids from different cultures and countries and educate them from the scratch. They made them Muslims, and to be servants for the Sultan forever, and never go back in their words. Jani in Turkish means "new" if I recall correctly, and Janissary means the "New Forces", they were considered as the strongest legion in all of the world at that time, beating the Hungarians, Spanish, and even they reached Vienna. However, after some years, they began to stop listening for orders, and make rebellions when they don't like the Sultan, so when "Sultan Mahmoud II" took in charge , he decided that the Janissary should be eliminated because they became dangerous on the community. He bombarded them in a place, and their story ended.

@Everyone :

For people asking about E.I.D, I'll gladly answer you. In Islam, we only have 2 holidays :

1. Eid-al-Fitr or Feast of breaking the fast.
2. Eid-al-Adha.

In the first one, we celebrate because we finished our fasting in the month : Ramadan or let's say between August and September. While in the second one, we celebrate because of finishing "Al Hajj" also known as Pilgrims.
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I guess that the OP means something related to Middle-Eastern Culture and not Islam in specific. Because Islam isn't only in the Middle-East, it is spread around the world recently, it even reached South America, East Asia etc...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 20:28

#37

Bopp

yes

Dragneel-Wiki, I know that bedouin and janissaries are two completely different things. I was just trying to find interesting costumes from the southwest-Asian region.

I hope that everyone here knows that "Muslim" and "Arab" are not synonyms. The original poster was pretty clearly talking about Muslim events. But the thread changed in post #19 to being about introducing elements of Arab culture into the game, such as costumes. That's why I started poking around for interesting dress from the southwest-Asian region.

Wed, 02/20/2013 - 04:38

#38

Dragneel-Wiki

@Bopp :

Oh, I see.

And I fear that most of the forumers here are weak in history and cultures, other than the things they took in school. You know, few people read History books nowadays, which makes me sad.

Wed, 02/20/2013 - 06:55

#39

Aplauses

I'm Muslim too.

If this happen then peoples are more likely to insult Islam religion. And Islam didn't teach us to waste our time on these computer game. So no.

Leave religion out of the game.

Wed, 02/20/2013 - 08:52

#40

Krakob

@Aureate

No sacrifices? Aww, you're boring :<

Wed, 02/20/2013 - 10:27

#41

Raptorsevens

Wow. Usually when someone

Wow.
Usually when someone even MENTIONS the name of a religion on SPUF it creates a firestorm of hate which can be seen from the moon.
I love how this forum remains mature and thoughtful over this topic.

Anyway, Spiral Knights is avoiding religious holidays for that exact reason and that's a good thing.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 16:48

#42

Skold-The-Drac

religion + games

not a neat mix... ever.

Always will be rage, always will be annoying carp.
Just, no.

OOO/Sega is using the general location of spiral knights (ala US, 'murica, etc.) and using the general holidays, the ones that are more retail-oriented than religious (note: no easter event of yet (greek or elsewise), I don't recall a 4th of july event, etc.)

Best things stay this way so nobody gets too butthurt.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 17:05

#43

Spold

I would love Southwest Asian clothes and a desert blade but I'm not sure about adding Islamic holidays to the game.

This could probably cause things related to Hinduism, Judaism, Sikhism, etc., because people would find it unfair to add an Islamic feature, and they may consider Three Rings racist for not one of these other religions.

Winterfest is NOT religious like other people said.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 17:04

#44

Spold

Double Post

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 18:12

#45

Klipik

@Skold

FF10 ¬.¬

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 22:13

#46

Feline-Grenadier

Just a thought...

I was thinking...

Ooo has done weapons from the knight's times, as well as weapons from Manifest Destiny times (American movement west including revolvers and semi-auto rifles), and even weapons across civilizations (sealed swords reminiscent of the Chinese straightswords?). A middle-east type of weapon doesn't seem bad, but I'm not sure if some of the weapons can be fitted into the game, and if existing weapons are already doing a similar role to the ones suggested. The cutter line seems to remind me of a falchion/scimitar weapon though.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 23:31

#47

Nunncitrus

spur/cutter

spurs and cutters are kind of like scimitars, warped scimitars, but they have the basic build down.

Fri, 02/22/2013 - 00:25

#48

Knight-Of-India

Okay there are no muslim

Okay there are no muslim festivals and no hindu i am totally fine with that. OOO has taken components from all religions remember the name of ash of agni. Agni is the hindi word for fire and a hindu god(fire of course). And they can't do any thing on EID since muslims fast on that festival and pray to their god. And anyway about a million indians live in the US and celebrate diwali and holi but you don't find any indian complaining about having other festivals.

Fri, 02/22/2013 - 08:28

#49

Rabeet-Ahsan

I am a muslim and im not bomber,well i am but mostly a swordie.

@Knight-Of-India Muslims don't fast on Eid as they have fasted all of the month before although they do pray.

@Aureate Can we sacrifice old virgins(if they exist)?

@Everyone Adding any relegion to videogames is a bad idea as we already face relegious prejudice in real life and don't want that in videogames too.I like the idea but its alittle risky.

Fri, 02/22/2013 - 09:16

#50

Aureate

@Rabeet

Generally people take badly if there are any human sacrifices involved. Goats would be acceptable, though.

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im thinking OOO SHOULD MAKE A PROMO for the Muslim people