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Fri, 03/01/2013 - 15:34
Cactac's picture
Cactac

Anyone else think that T3 Gun Puppies are EASIER to kill than T2?

I request a patch that makes Gun Puppies stop to fire, as in T3.

2 T2 Gun Puppies are MUCH harder to kill than 2 T3 gun puppies in an open area, especially up close.

Anyone agree?

Any comment is appreciated.

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 16:39
#1
Firefistace's picture
Firefistace
Don't know

Personally, I think it's fine how it is

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 16:41
#2
Dragonuity's picture
Dragonuity
yep. If they can unexpectedly

yep. If they can unexpectedly fire all 5 at once. That would be it's special i guess.

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 17:02
#3
Cactac's picture
Cactac
I meant...

I meant that they stopped rotating and shooting at the same time.

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 19:12
#4
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

I concur. T2 puppies are far harder than T3 ones.

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 23:24
#5
Possiblespy's picture
Possiblespy
How T3 gun puppies are harder than T2:

In T2, you can dodge around the bullets in two different directions. In T3, you can only dodge to one side, or you'll get hit when it starts firing from the side. Then, what if there's something else, like a lumber or another gun puppy to the right?

If it's more than just a single gun puppy, like with that one danger room that has, like, twelve puppies, T3 puppies will fill up the space with an extra two bullets every time they fire.

Sure, if you've got a lone T3 puppy, it's easy to just dodge right and then punch it. But it's not exactly rocket science to kill a lone puppy in T2 either, is it?

...also, just to clarify, you're proposing that T2 puppies should stop, fire to the side, fire to the center, then fire to the other side, right? Because if you're saying they should stop while they fire all three at once, I don't know how much difference that would make. Just checking.

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 23:31
#6
Qwez's picture
Qwez
T3 and T2 puppies fill

T3 and T2 puppies fill different roles (Excluding the Polyp)

T3 is crowd control, great in being a pain in th... when paired with other puppies or monsters. However many people aim to destroy puppies first, and with lower solo power, T3 puppies appear to be easier.

T2 has lower crowd control, higher solo power, harder to kill due to targeting.

This suggestion Cactac will make it easier (IMHO).
Removing the attack lock on the T3 puppies will not make them any harder for the majority of players. In fact, I'll see it as getting easier. I know exactly when the T3 puppy has shot and where it's shooting, so I can easily dodge those bullets and smack its face. Also, many people counter-clockwise circle the puppy, thus making the shots useless even with targeting (just circle a little farther away). Part of the difficulty with these T3 puppies is not knowing what exact direction the puppy has shot when facing them.

I propose this to make it slightly harder for some players.
How about this, rather than removing the attack lock, I propose having the T3 puppies shoot the middle shot, then the adjacent 2 shots, then the final 2 farthest shots. This would be a 3 round burst at the same speed per shot as before, and will negate some counter clockwise action by having the first bullet in the middle as opposed to aimed to the right side. With less time spent shooting, overall attack speed will increase as well. Thus, the T3 puppy is more dangerous.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 05:38
#7
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

I'd nerf T2 puppies and leave the multishooting as a special ability for polyps.
Make every enemy different.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 09:04
#8
Cactac's picture
Cactac
It also depends on the area

In an open space, 3 T3 puppies are FAR easier to kill than 3 T2 puppies up close.

T3 puppies are easier to shoot and slash than T2, which if you get up close basically means you lose a few health bars if you don't shield in the middle of a sword combo.

T2 puppies are somewhat easy to gun, but harder than T3.

T3 is easier to bomb, it stops to shoot, shoots one bullet at a time, why should T2 puppies not be the same?

The main reason I'm requesting this so that I can stop dieing in places like RJP runs because of the puppies.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 09:09
#9
Fleet-Miss-Gun's picture
Fleet-Miss-Gun
T3

So the T2 gun puppy is harder than the T3?

Then the difficulty scaling for gun puppy is weird.

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