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Fire Antigua

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Fri, 03/15/2013 - 18:09
Possiblespy's picture
Possiblespy

Hello! I suggest a very low damage, normal damage, fire-inflicting line for the Antigua, useful mainly for Lockdown.
To give the impression that it's for Lockdown, I'd imagine that the recipes for it would/could be sold by Sullivan.

The gun's main point won't be doing damage, it'll be to start fires. It'd be effective to keep recons visible, and would do PLENTY of fire damage to anyone with a glass cannon loadout.

Because of the low damage and lack of specialized damage, I doubt anyone will use this in the clockworks/missions. Oh well.

Since it's be so easy to hit things with Antiguas, I think the fire Antigua will only inflict weak fire, instead of the moderate fire that
Pepperboxes and Magma Drivers do. Not an expert on this part, that might be too easy to defend against.

Visually, it'll be a dull orange with some red after one upgrade, and bright yellow with some orange after the second upgrade. Maybe some smoke or fire effects. Oh, and it should ignore those big vertical wings, the way the Pepperbox ignores that giant barrel of darts.

Since it loses the wings, the charge should probably lose the bird. It could use a fireball that functioned similarly instead.

I do not have anything to suggest about the name, feel free to name it if you really want to.

Argent Peacemaker's Damage Table (against fiends and slimes)

-----------------------Stratum 1----Stratum 2--Stratum 3---Stratum 4-----Stratum 5---Stratum 6
Basic Attack-------10-11---------14-15-------26-28--------29-31-----------46-57--------62-67
Charge Attack-----23-24--------30------------63-67--------67---------------119-155-----172-191

5* Fire Antigua's Damage Table

-----------------------Stratum 1---Stratum 2--Stratum 3----Stratum 4-----Stratum 5---Stratum 6
Basic Attack-------5-6------------7-8-----------13-14--------15-16-----------23-28--------31-33
Charge Attack-----11-12--------15------------31-34---------34---------------59-78--------86-96

TL;DR: See title.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 18:29
#1
Yukimare's picture
Yukimare
ummmm....

even with low DPS, i find a antigua that can inflict pure normal damage and fire status conditions to really be useful in the clockworks. the fire will cause even more damage, the normal damage allows it to be used agenst ALL enemys with no damage resistence (including vana), and the high fire rate conpascates for the soft hits

because of this... even with sightly less damage per hit, i think this will end up outshineing the other antiguas, and end up sold by Basil, not as LD rewards

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 18:29
#2
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder

So you are telling me that this antigua will be completely weak and not very effective? How much damage does it do (I want the number specifically)?

Otherwise, no.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 18:44
#3
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

You want numbers? I've got numbers.

Current antiguas do the same damage as Blitz Needle. It makes sense, then, that our Fire Antigua (Phoenix?) would do the same as Plague Needle and Pepperbox. In other words, each shot from our firey antigua would match the regular shots of Pepperbox, and the fireball thing at the end of the charge would do as much as the charge damage of Pepperbox.

If this gun were to be implemented, that's how I imagine it'd go down.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 19:05
#4
Possiblespy's picture
Possiblespy
Why isn't "number" pluralized?

I mean, seriously, what single number could I give you that would still make any sense?

Argent Peacemaker's Damage Table (against fiends and slimes)

-----------------------Stratum 1----Stratum 2--Stratum 3---Stratum 4-----Stratum 5---Stratum 6
Basic Attack-------10-11---------14-15-------26-28--------29-31-----------46-57--------62-67
Charge Attack-----23-24--------30------------63-67--------67---------------119-155-----172-191

5* Fire Antigua's Damage Table

-----------------------Stratum 1---Stratum 2--Stratum 3----Stratum 4-----Stratum 5---Stratum 6
Basic Attack-------5-6------------7-8-----------13-14--------15-16-----------23-28--------31-33
Charge Attack-----11-12--------15------------31-34---------34---------------59-78--------86-96

(added to original post)

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 19:20
#5
Possiblespy's picture
Possiblespy
BOOM! Headshot.

I see Zeddy sniped me while I was writing that.

I took a look over at the Volcanic Pepperbox's damage table, and it did actually look pretty similar to what I got by just dividing an AP's damage in half, at least in the deeper strata (stratums).

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 19:42
#6
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

Well, you said it, only good for LD. But would anyone care to craft it for that?
Faster firing, but a good gunner can do wonders with a magma driver.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 20:09
#7
Possiblespy's picture
Possiblespy
I figured I'd just suggest

I figured I'd just suggest something less monumentally game-changing, since it wouldn't break anything and might actually get included, thus making those people shouting for more weapons happy.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 21:49
#8
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

This would have to have a significantly low chance of causing status to be anywhere near balanced. I like it.

Sat, 03/16/2013 - 02:02
#9
Krakob's picture
Krakob
Eh, eh?

I like-ish it. Have a look here for damage numbers. Zeddy already explained what you might look up in the document.

The only thing I question is why we need a new Antigua. Don't we want another Valiance style weapon, kinda like how Levi has it's brother CIV and Nitronome has a whole bunch of siblings?

+0, because I'm not really sure. At least it's a positive 0 ;3

Sat, 03/16/2013 - 09:43
#10
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
Easier Fix.

Just make Sentenza have a chance to inflict Shadow Fire.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 01:36
#11
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
That OP is a bloody spy!

Can it be piercing damage or something? I think people have been wanting that for a while...

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