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Sun, 04/07/2013 - 12:50
Everlas's picture
Everlas

Hi SOME of you may know me some may not if u don't my name is dragon-dash and I wanna learn how to be a good LD bomber im kinda new at it and so far im not doing as good as I want to .... ;/ so I need help from LD bombers that know what there doing lol

please im kinda confused and a lot of people have been saying I need practice and stuff like that I just wanna learn how to be a good bomber for my guild ULTRA .

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 13:15
#1
Bleyken's picture
Bleyken
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You cant be a good bomber... You are too noob...

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 13:18
#2
No-Thanks
/shrug

mist bombs are pretty mean, but ive had ppl complain about my big angry bomb and vortex, theyd rather have me use gf..

but no matter how much or little u make others mad, mist bombs just make a huge difference and can win the game easily, in particular the shock and stun bomb and if there arent any skolvers, ice bomb can be really bad too

i think poison would be the friendliest and yet most effective bomb, because i havent seen ppl complain about it yet, but it does help alot, if combined with other weapons(primarily to weaken the enemys ATTACK, but even then this bomb alone wont suffice to finish them off)

either way, a GOOD bomber always has an extra sword..or at least many of the good ones, who ive seen
a really good bomber should also have a pulsar at least just to deal with other pulsars

i hope that nobody, who has the decency to bomb ever uses pulsar, tho (:

the simplest rules:
-recon maxes CTR, guardian will require u to have CTR high to max it out, striker will require u to have very high CTR on UV and equips
-dmg bonus is not desired for mist bombs
-shock resistance and elemental defense should be prioritized(just so u dont ever have to deal with the full power of pulsars, but this wont make it any more comfortable, ull merely get to survive more)

everything else is just up to u and ur playstyle, thers countless options capping defending killing distracting its all up to u
1 more thing: attacks will interrupt ur charge attack if its not fully charged, which is the worst of all ur problems, because u cannot always land a counter-attack when ur being hit by ppl, who u could easily punish for rushing you.. if it wasnt for this major flaw =p

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 13:35
#3
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Retequizzle
Main things to consider: -A

Main things to consider:

-A large portion of players (in both Random and Guild) will play striker, leaving them vulnerable to a variety of bombs. This becomes less true in guild lockdown because of heavy UV investment, but either way. Having a Voltaic Tempest and Stagger Storm as your two main status bombs tend to be pretty cut-and-dry since while some players may have resists to one, not as many have resists to both. It really comes down to memorizing who can walk through what and being able to identify what to use on reflex more than anything else. In Randoms though, just drop them both with impunity - you'll still catch someone more often than not.

-Keeping the above in mind, a lot of players don't expect Vortex bombs in Lockdown, and since the only way you can resist those bombs is through use of the Guardian class since it negates all knockback effects, you could consider picking up one (or both) and see if that works for you.

-Carry a sword, at the very least, so you can defend yourself if you get bum-rushed before you can drop a bomb. Gran Faust tends to be the go-to for that, but really anything that isn't the DVS will offer enough protection to at least put a hit or two on them.

Other than that, some players opt to use Venom Veiler as a third bomb since rarely will you find someone with Poison resists on a competitive set, so to speak. After that, just be as much of a distraction/nuisance as you can.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 15:51
#4
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Narfle

This is just me, but: I tend to run with 3-slot loadouts--one haze, one direct damage bomb, and one backup weapon (generally my DA, as so many strikers run with some combination of skolver and snarby). As has been previously mentioned, the hazes of choice are usually either VT or SS, and I have multiple copies of the same defensive loadouts--i.e., combinations that have higher pierce, shadow or elemental defense, depending on what weapons are killing me the most--with either VT or SS, so I can switch between them if I find any strikers who have immunity to my haze bomb.
In terms of gear choice, I tend to favor merc demo for the ele defense and shock resist--there are a lot of polaris(es?) out there. Also, coupled with a 5* bomb dmg trinket, the set gets you up to bomb dmg bonus VH. While that won't do much for your haze bombs, it will make your nitronome or BAB more than just a way to spook unwary strikers (I have killed many, many strikers by dropping a nitro, and running as they swarm the cap. They think you are retreating and they just have to suffer through a haze bomb, instead they are blown to bits). I have found this to be a good all-around set--playing recon with this setup you will have ctr MAX on your bombs as long as they are fully heated anyway, though a backup sword will be slow without a UV. Playing guardian with this set, just swap a 5* bomb ctr trinket for damage trink and the guardian class bonus will still get you ctr ultra without needing UVs on your bombs.
Now, as you will also be playing against enemy bombers, I would also recommend having a set with AoA, DBB or dark ret (or some combination of the three). Add an AP or sentenza as your support weapon to interrupt the other bomber's charges. As many bombers will have shock immunity from wearing merc demo, VTs won't have any effect, and SS will only slow them down without doing much by way of damage. AoA, DBB or dark ret can be surprisingly effective, however, as they won't have any natural fire resist, or pierce or shadow defense. Whether playing recon or guardian, their goal will still be to take caps, and that means having to stay close as you blanket the area with things that will hopefully kill them.
One more thing: I'm assuming you're looking primarily at gvg. Bombing in randoms can be really touch-and-go, as, at least in my experience, you rarely get the teamwork you need to be really effective. Going off alone, whether recon or guardian, can work out well as long as there isn't anyone on the other team with the right status immunities--especially on the 3-cap maps, you by yourself can pretty much lock up one cap for your team through the entire match--but you will be very vulnerable when running from cap to cap without a teammate near by to watch your back.
Bombing in LD, whether recon or guardian, is still mostly a support role. You harass the other team with statuses and area denial, and your caps and defends free up the strikers to deal as much damage as possible--stick to your strengths.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 16:03
#5
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Canozo

Get a hazewalker set with Polaris shock immunity, CTR Med-High bombs, one Fast sword (Flourish/Brandish), play as guardian, learn how to dodge a billion polaris shots and learn to control your invincibility frames.

Im not a bomber but if this doesnt make you a good bomber, I dont know what it does.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 16:13
#6
Neodasus's picture
Neodasus
Charge Release Charge Release

Charge
Release
Charge
Release
Charge
Release

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 16:28
#7
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Eclaium

Be an unsuccessful ninja :o

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:40
#8
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Aquajag
RIP RSS

Bombing is difficult and much less fun in LD than it used to be. It is very difficult to effectively take down a half-way decent gunner if you only have pure bombs. Also, being a bomber tends to attract a lot of unwanted attention from your opponents, because they (somewhat rightly) recognize you as a risk. Bombs allow you to defend a particular area, making it a danger zone for any opponent. So, strikers swoop in, assassinate you fast... guardians slowly approach you with their shield (which as a pure bomber you pretty much can't touch), and then smack you hard to death... and gunners just pick you off while laughing at your inability to charge a bomb that can't reach them anyways. Finally, you just won't be a damage leader. So you can choose to go for the "crowd control" approach, have low damage in every game, but know you are helping your team win with captures. Or go for some damage, but recognize that even if you can get your damage into comfortable midrange numbers, you really should still focus on defense, and not expect to be the one-person-offense.

So the first thing you need to do to be a good LD bomber is: take some major sedatives. Seriously, get prepped for a lot of frustration. You may also want to consider keeping a gun or sword handy.

Here's my advice on pure bombing:
Damage is key. You can get Max CTR simply by being recon. So my recommendations are either to do full mad Bomber as a Guardian, or Full Bombastic Demo as a Recon. Either way, with one damage trinket, you have Max Damage, Max CTR on fully heated bombs. Additionally I like Full Bombastic because it renders me pretty safe from Shivermist.

For bombs, make many loadouts. Stagger Storm and Voltaic Tempest are my preferred mist bombs, but depending on what your opponents are wearing, others become handy. For example, if you are in that very rare game where there are no Skolvers, Shivermist suddenly becomes a great option! If your opponents are all shock resistant, having Voltaic Tempest is a waste of space. For pure damage, I prefer Nitro over DBB because of the knockback. The other knockback bombs may be hella fun, but I wouldn't rely on them as a mainstay. Additionally, I love having a vortex available in a loadout. I don't use them much in a generic game, but they make for great fun when bored. And also, they suck opponents out of their locker room! So when your team is storming their gates, and they are sniping everyone from behind their safety shield, drop that Electron Vortex on their doorstep, and watch them panic as they are suddenly sucked outside of safety and your teammates slash them to death. But then you might want a bigger knockback bomb on occasion. And maybe you want to try out Ash of Agni, though I don't recommend that because the damage output isn't quite enough to keep your opponents off your back. And maybe there's no skolvers again or anyone with piercing defense so DBB becomes the weapon of choice. See why i recommend many loadouts?

My loadouts look like this:
Nitro, Stagger, Voltaic
Nitro, Evortex, Stagger
Nitro, EVortex, Voltaic
5* sun shards, 5* Salt bomb, i mean, why not?
Various other options for trolling or fun, like say, BAB.
A loadout with either a gun or sword for when bombing just ain't working.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 08:13
#9
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Raptorsevens
Eh, well this is something

Eh, well this is something I'm interested in as well.
The problem is that I refuse to buy weapon slots because they expire which leaves me gimped against people who do.

So currently I'm trying voltaic tempest + volcanic demo set but I'm not sure what I should use with it. Polaris?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 08:44
#10
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Blakknite
Bombing in LD

You don't really need weapon slots. Voltaic tempest or some haze bomb will probably be the only thing you find works, if only ever so slightly. Unless you do bring something like a Polaris or a brandish. But then your not really bombing in LD. Nitro and your haze bomb of choice would do just fine. Preferably VT, not everyone in the match is going to have shock resist. Heck I've only actually ran into maybe 2 or 3 people who can actually walk through it.

Your job as a bomber is not dps. Its strictly defense. Cap a point, hold that point till your team mates arrive fending off any weary intruders. Rinse and repeat. Try and stay away from the swarm of spammed Polaris blast and brandish charges. Also constantly expand your territory first chance you get. Ideally you want to lay down carpets of death and try and block entrances.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 15:23
#11
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Hungran
Here's how I Bomb

You already know me in game, and possibly about how I play tier 3, hue hue hue. Although I havent played LD in ages, I'm pretty sure my bomb method is still viable.

Guide to Strike Bombing

Step One - Acquire Full bombing armour - ex. Mad Bomber Set (or Volcanic to counter that meta that dictates that players spam polaris)

Step Two - Acquire a Mist Bomb of eithet Stun or Shock status (objective is to hinder the opponents mobility) - preferably with CTR Very High, or at the least, medium.

Step Three - Ignore the metagame and go chose STRIKER as your lockdown class, be sure to have a good sword equiped, along with your bombs (and trinkets to make your bomb CTR MAX, if you dont have UVS. Despite the striker charge time penalty, your bomb will still be, CTR MAX).

Step Four - Camp Choke Points, such as that of the forest, or camp/capture points while laying your status bomb. Be sure to have them placed in areas Strikers subconsiously run into, because they won't be able to avoid your status then.

Step Five - When the opponent gets stunned/shocked (for me, stun works a lot better), take out your toothpick and juggle/shieldcancel/stun lock your opponent, or whatever.

Step Six - Throw confetti and aquire rage from enemy team.

Mindset is to make your opponent run into your mist, then beat em up when they do, you should be able to beat em up before the status duration times out.

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 02:38
#12
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Dr-Storm
hmmm...

Don't know about t3 bombing haven't try it yet...but in t2 blast bomb line is pretty good, if you have two person carry super blast bomb and each of them realease the charge within the inteval of each other, a pure swordy strker will have no hope in damaging you...but if you are the only bomber in the team, I say you should dance within the blast radius of your bomb and predict where the enemy are heading.

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 11:13
#13
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Dancinjen
Alright, go with merc demo

Alright,

go with merc demo if you can. I don't advise using mad bomber just because well... it's awful. I don't see any benefits to having madbomber unless you have some kick butt UV's. I'm talking something that will offset you being vulnerable to EVERYTHING. Even going as guardian isn't going to save your booty. Because you can't charge your bomb while having your shield up.

Planting bombs as fast as you can is key, along with good dodging skills (aka good internet connection). If you are hit with a status that doesn't allow you to charge fast enough it kind of... defeats the purpose of having max ctr and damage. I chose mer demo with trinkets is because i can max out my ctr and then I can just about max out my damage while being immune to shock, except for with the pulsar. If you wanted though you could do like a damage trinket with the shock trinket and be immune to pulsar shock too.

Knowing bomb placement and knowing how to lead people into your bomb. Haze bombs are alright if you know the armors and what are they immune and not immune to. If i see a lot of people in vog I use my shiver bomb or shock. If i see a lot of people in skolver i use my shock or stun bomb. If none of that works i use poison. Then I will break out my nitro and e. vortex.

You just have to find out a playing style that works for you best. No one can tell you really HOW to bomb. you have to find your own groove.

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 13:52
#14
Everlas's picture
Everlas
:) thx guys when ummm Hunter

:) thx guys when ummm Hunter leaves the game I will be the best bomber ever

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 15:48
#15
Bleyken's picture
Bleyken

Sure.....

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:47
#16
Everblunt's picture
Everblunt
I got a guid for you

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Wed, 04/10/2013 - 18:50
#17
Canozo's picture
Canozo

"thx guys when ummm Hunter leaves the game I will be the best bomber ever"

lol.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 19:23
#18
Everlas's picture
Everlas
Lol

Lol

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 19:49
#19
Huntr
>.>

lol...

btw, it's Huntr :)

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 20:04
#20
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Njthug
=0

Best Bomber is Miabot! She spins get on her LEVEL!!!

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