Spiral Knights - Lancer Knightz damage data

Lancer Knightz damage data

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Wed, 04/17/2013 - 16:53

Zeddy

I noticed some numbers were missing there. You haven't bothered with low, high and ultra damage values, which is fine. Most people don't care about those values anyway. More concerning is that there are missing weapons. I have every bomb in the game and got an ele pass during the lottery thing, so here are some bomb values. All values are listed as no bonus, medium, very high and max

Depth 19, Irontech:
185 207 229 251

Depth 19, Big Angry:
204 228 251 275

Depth 19, Deadly Crystal (and Splinter and Dark Matter):
Weak: 117 130 143 156
Neutral: 71 83 98 111
Resist: 20 22 24 26

Depth 24, Angrytech:
243 273 303 333

Depth 24, Big Iron:
269 301 333 365

Depth 24, Deadly Metal (And Critter and Dark Spatter):
Weak: 166 184 203 221
Neutral: 95 113 137 156
Resist: 29 31 34 37

I'd edit the values in myself, but I don't have access.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 19:00

Bopp

I'll ask

I'll ask Donkeyhaute. It's hard to imagine that he won't want more data. Or you could ask him.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 11:36

Donkey-Haute

thanks

I've added the data and credited you. Thanks for your contribution! Let me know if you see any problems.
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Lancer_Knightz_(Guild)/Bomb_Damage_(Depth_19)
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Lancer_Knightz_(Guild)/Bomb_Damage_(Depth_24)
Oh, and your shard bomb data are just the shards, not the initial explosions, right? Do you have the explosion data handy?

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 18:14

Zeddy

Thanks! The initial explosions are the same as for Sun Shards and Salt Bomb and as such I didn't bother getting them this time around.

I don't see the values added to D24. Is this a problem on my end?

As long as I have you here, I can mention a few redundancies in the charts:
-Dread Venom Striker and Wild Hunting Blade shares damage values with Valiance, Blitz Needle and Iron Slug. Since those are all guns, it might as well stay there.

-Warmaster Rocket Hammer is halfway redundant. The first attack is the same as Final Flourish' last attack. The dash is the same as Rigadoon's first attack. You only need the final hit and the charge attack.

-Sudaruska is 100% redundant. The first and final hit are shared with Warmaster Rocket Hammer. The charge hit is shared with the finisher on Final Flourish. The charge finish is shared with Warmaster Rocket Hammer.

-Polaris' charge is the same as Nova Driver's charge and can be removed.

-Biohazard's charge is the same as Callahan's charge and can be removed.

-Neutralizer's charge is unique and still needed. I'll get you those numbers eventually, either by having Soral do it for me or by crafting the weapon for myself down the line.

-Dark Retribution has the same damage as Plague Needle's regular attack. You don't have Plague yet, though.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 20:05

Bopp

I can see depth 24

I can see the depth 24 bomb data that you contributed. Try reloading the page?

He knows about the redundancies in the data, or at least most of them. He knows about your threads on it, anyway.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 20:13

Zeddy

I'm able to see the additions when I log in with my wiki alt, so it's just that thing again.

Fri, 09/27/2013 - 22:59

Zeddy

Plague Needle and Neutralizer

Depth 19
Plague Needle (charge)
Effective
118, 131, 144, 157
Neutral
71, 84, 99, 112
Resisted
21, 22, 24, 26

Neutralizer (charge)
274, 303, 332, 361

Depth 24
Plague Needle (charge)
Effective
176, 195, 214, 234
Neutral
104, 129, 149, 168
Resisted
30, 33, 36, 38

Neutralizer (charge)
380, 421, 461, 502

Plague Needle's regular shot is the same as Dark Retribution and Neutralizer's regular shot is the same as status alchemers, unexpanded pulsars and biohazard. Since your pages already have those, I only gathered the charge attacks.

I made particular care to ensure my targets weren't poisoned during the values I gathered, of course.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 14:47

Donkey-Haute

thank you

Your values have been entered in our data pages, and you have been credited. Currently I link your name to User:Zeddypanda. Let me know if you'd prefer a link to somewhere else, or no link. Thank you!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 20:50

Zeddy

Zeddypanda works. Maybe I should put a page there someday.

I forgot to mention this, but Volcanic Pepperbox and Plague share values as well, so you could group them together should you want to do that.

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