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Tue, 04/30/2013 - 13:55
Poetry's picture
Poetry

Has anyone ever hosted one? I was thinking of putting one together with The Goonies.

For the sake of parity, the only real stipulation is that you must fight in unaltered proto gear (heated, but no UVs), with proto weapons (you can fight as an alt, if need be, as long as you identify your main account).

Essentially, you'll fight as a newborn account.

Details:

1) No trinkets

2) No UVs.

3) You must heat your proto gear (armor/weapons) to level 10.

4) Auto-Target/Auto-Aim
(left up to the individual, can be on or off, i don't care, unlike other people, i'm not afraid of anyone or anything...except bugs :P)

5) You can only use a proto sword, a proto gun, and proto bomb (You may only use two weapons at a time, default mode).

Anyone interested?

Tue, 04/30/2013 - 15:38
#1
Johnthegreenguy's picture
Johnthegreenguy
TNW represent

The Nights Watch is always up for custom lockdown games! Anything to improve balance :3

Tue, 04/30/2013 - 15:43
#2
Bleyken's picture
Bleyken

I have Med and Max UVs in my Proto and i cant buy new Proto.... You should allow UVs...

Tue, 04/30/2013 - 16:03
#3
Autofire's picture
Autofire
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

@Contri

Could you make an alt? Maybe even on your same account? :P

Tue, 04/30/2013 - 16:27
#4
Glacies's picture
Glacies
--

What if we have no UVs on our Proto Stuff? Do we still have to make alts or? Also, shouldn't it be left up to the player if they want to heat their gear or not?

I might be up for this though.

Tue, 04/30/2013 - 17:52
#5
Validous's picture
Validous
Unpause the video, there's nothing interesting here.

Looks, nice, I'm looking for a bit of a change getting beat in LD cause I don't have any 5* weapons.
Unfortunately I haven't heated all of my proto gear to 10 yet. Might as well start though, they're pretty close.

Tue, 04/30/2013 - 19:17
#6
Rangerwillx's picture
Rangerwillx

Cool. I've been thinking of doing something like this, but then my natural laziness got to me.

Tue, 04/30/2013 - 19:20
#7
Spold's picture
Spold

What's the cost?

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 00:20
#8
Mupt's picture
Mupt
Feel the love <3

This sounds great. Finally a contest AT, not that I use it because it isn't usefull, but still, a really nice contest
I'll ask my fellow guildmates of Blue Storm if they want to participate as well.
If not, I'm still in. Finally a place where mine proto armor/gear can shine. It was collecting dust anyway

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 00:25
#9
Amanzi's picture
Amanzi
Oh my Arceus

I'd love this!
Absolute balance! If anyone has UVs, they can make an alt.
Ohmanohmanohman, I wanna do this.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 04:37
#10
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian
RE: proto tourney

What date/time is this on?

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 04:47
#11
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian
Contact information:

IGN: Blade-of-grass.

Preferred method: in-game mail

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 06:34
#12
Pine-Fresh's picture
Pine-Fresh
+1

Yes! Sounds spectacularly fun.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 07:47
#13
Aidanblades's picture
Aidanblades
Mabye you should add more

Mabye you should add more detail to the opening post (date and time,list of competitors etc.) but other wise I'm in :) ill be sure to let friends know too.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 08:38
#14
Mupt's picture
Mupt
Feel the love <3

Also, are heart trinks allowed?

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 08:44
#15
Il-Mono-Il's picture
Il-Mono-Il
well...

see the first rule:

1) NO TRINKETS

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 08:47
#16
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
+1

im up for it.
and to make it fair for my opponents, I will give you my load out i will be using :o
Proto Pith Helm
Proto Brigandine
Proto Sword
Proto Gun

xD

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 10:24
#17
Hero-Of-Cheese's picture
Hero-Of-Cheese
*sharpens proto sword*

I usually don't play LD because of the uvs and hearth trinkets.But with the rules this contest has set, there will finally be balance!Skill will determine who will win, like in Blast Network.Count me in.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 11:12
#18
Gorgotron's picture
Gorgotron
I like proto LD

I'm assuming this will be arranged in T1? I still haven't gotten to try a full proto match in T3. I think it would be hilarious. I would be interested in it either way, just as soon as I resolve a recent issue with my knight's name.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 12:49
#19
Dragneel-Wiki's picture
Dragneel-Wiki

@Hero-Of-Cheese:
Skill won't determine who wins, latency will.
Skill doesn't exist in lockdown, it's just who has the perfect conditions and trained well will dominate. There are some exceptions though sometimes....

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 12:54
#20
Poetry's picture
Poetry
@ Contri No UVs, sorry. That

@ Contri
No UVs, sorry. That would defeat the purpose of a tournament like this. Though luckily making an alternate account is really easy.

@ Glacies
If you don't have UVs on your Proto Gear (on your regular account) you can go ahead and use it without issue. Otherwise, it would be best to create a new, balanced account for any future tournament.

I thought asking players to heat their weapons would be a good way of ensuring that everyone is playing on a level playing field. I'm not totally sure how heating affects armor, but i want to make sure everyone can take the same amount of damage and charge their weapons at the same rate.

@ Rangerwillx
I've been sitting on a lot of ideas, but it's hard to find time to post on the forum sometimes, and other times, i get lazy too.

@ Spold
No cost. I still need to look into how people run tournaments, but i don't see a reason why i would need to charge anyone. Once the event is organized, The Goonies will sponsor it in name and i'll be responsible for the prizes.

@ Blade-Of-Grass
It's still in the preliminary stages. As i mentioned to Will above, i've been sitting on a lot of ideas, but this one in particular i think would be well appreciated by the community. I'm hoping The Goonies can help me organize it.

@ Aidanblades
Once i've gotten the logistics down, i'll announce it in game and contact everyone that shows interest. Nothing is set in stone yet. Still planning, learning, organizing.

@ Demete
No heart trinkets, sorry.

@ Hero-Of-Cheese
As far as i can tell, this is the best way of achieving nearly perfect balance.

I'm surprised OOOs hasn't already implemented a Tier 0 mode that nullifies UVs and Trinkets.
(They could give proto gear as bribe prizes).

I'd like to have this tournament mirror an amazing hack-and-slash PvP game i used to play before i started playing Spiral Knights (out of respect to OOOs, that "other game" will remained unnamed). But what makes that "other game" so amazing is that because everyone had the same default gear, skill ultimately determined the outcome of games. Armor and classes could be leveled up and upgraded during a match but they reset after the match.

Unfortunately, that scared off a lot of people. And the learning curve was admittedly very difficult for new players that were used to games that had persistent items and upgradable gear.

So in the spirit of that game, this tournament will emphasize skill over gear.

@ Gorgotron I think it would be easier to manage in T1. This game isn't exactly tournament friendly, so sticking to T1 might help us manage the traffic from players in public games.

@ Dragneel-Wiki Latency is just one factor, like weather in football game. In a balanced environment, skill ends up being the ultimate factor.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 13:46
#21
Mikeyye's picture
Mikeyye

Can we choose a class? Striker, recon, or guardian?

No matter what, I want to join!

The problem is, how can you detect people wearing Heart Trinkets?

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 15:52
#22
Aidanblades's picture
Aidanblades
Hmm maybe 000 should make a

Hmm maybe 000 should make a in- game tournament creator so you can host one in game and people will be able to see it on the coliseum page there for more people would join.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 15:54
#23
Destructnoid's picture
Destructnoid
Can. I try

My guild The Shadow Guardians can we try out? It's not my guild just to make it clear

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:46
#24
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian
Full inspect

Maybe type your loadout here or full inspect people. My loadout:

  • spiral sallet (well I think all of the 5 intro helms have all the same stats)
  • spiral culet (all 5 have the same stats)
  • proto shield
  • proto gun and proto sword
  • no trinkets or unique variant
Wed, 05/01/2013 - 21:22
#25
Thurderwing's picture
Thurderwing
I'd like to join, this sounds

I'd like to join, this sounds fun!

ign: thunderwing

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 20:21
#26
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum
I am Klipik! (See, no sockpuppeting!)

I might be interested, provided I have time.

IGN: Klipik

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 20:21
#27
Pine-Fresh's picture
Pine-Fresh
Didn't work out that well....

So I got a bunch of people together today and started a T1 match for proto only gear. It worked out pretty great for the first round, until people joined and started using shocking edges, cyclops helms, etc... I'm not quite sure how you would police this match so that people go proto only :(

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 20:23
#28
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum

It's a tournament, so it would be 1v1 and the results would only count if the rules were followed. Btw, that game we put together wasn't so bad :P

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 21:39
#29
Poetry's picture
Poetry
I think i have a way of

I think i have a way of keeping it under control. I'll post tomorrow. Too tired to type right now.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 22:20
#30
Hero-Of-Cheese's picture
Hero-Of-Cheese
cheese

Wait, it has started already? Darn, I missed it.I really need to heat my proto gear then.They're at level 1...

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 23:38
#31
Coolspiderman's picture
Coolspiderman
I am in

Sign me up.
IGN: Coolspiderman
When is this exactly?
Well gotta hit the proto GYM XD

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 08:02
#32
Aidanblades's picture
Aidanblades
Bump Also ign if you need

Bump
Also ign if you need it...aidanblades

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 18:01
#33
Rangerwillx's picture
Rangerwillx

Forgot to say sign me up.
Also, I assume this will be done in random T1 LD, and not gvg?
IGN: Grimranger

However, no community tournament can be completely even, as you would need the same computer for that ;)

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 10:00
#34
Sir-Greenlink's picture
Sir-Greenlink
This sounds like it could be

This sounds like it could be rather fun. I'll sign up.

My main account is Sir-Greenlink but I'll be playing using an alt called Sir-Redlink (creative, I know).

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 15:10
#35
Mikeyye's picture
Mikeyye

Detecting Heart Trinkets as very difficult because the cheater can immediately switch loadouts in the locker room.
We're going to have to do GvG because there may be other Tier 1 players.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:33
#36
Rickypeter's picture
Rickypeter
hmm

well just got back from fsc after heating ma proto gear, :)

can i play too?

ign rickypeter

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 14:43
#37
Michael-Hartlin
Cool.

Cool.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 17:31
#38
Mikeyye's picture
Mikeyye

How are we going to make the match based as? Round Robin, Single Elimination with or without third place match or Double elimination?

I'm not in any guild nor am I affiliated with any guild so I'm glad to help out with this event.

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 17:40
#39
Artistbma's picture
Artistbma
Im in. IGN: Artistbma When is

Im in.

IGN: Artistbma

When is it though?

Mon, 05/06/2013 - 19:17
#40
Mikeyye's picture
Mikeyye

Poetry seems to be busy. =(

Tue, 05/07/2013 - 15:27
#41
Tecchhno's picture
Tecchhno

Yesh he does.

Btw, sign me up!
Ign:Tecchhno

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 17:20
#42
Mikeyye's picture
Mikeyye

Ok, ok. Unofficial Sign-Up list.

Johnthegreenguy, Shadownox - The Night's Watch
Demete
Amanzi
Blade-Of-Grass
Pine-Fresh
Canine-Vladimir
Gorgotron
Hero-Of-Cheese
Mikeyye
Destructnoid - The Shadow Guardians
Thunderwing
Klipik
Coolspiderman
Aidanblades
Grimranger (Rangerwillx)
Sir-Redlink (Sir-Greenlink)
Rickypeter
Artistbma
Techhno

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 13:47
#43
Shadownox's picture
Shadownox
Honk honk. Make way for the dead bunny.

Hey, sign me up too!

IGN: Shadownox. Hey, Mikeyye, add me to The Nights Watch list? :D

Sat, 05/11/2013 - 17:21
#44
Mikeyye's picture
Mikeyye

Gotcha.

Sun, 05/12/2013 - 18:49
#45
Klipik's picture
Klipik
!

Is this still happening?

Fri, 05/17/2013 - 18:47
#46
Mikeyye's picture
Mikeyye

Bump.

@Klipik I think we need more players. Plus, Poetry is still busy.

Mon, 05/20/2013 - 20:35
#47
Golden-Crusaderr's picture
Golden-Crusaderr
I would join gladly sounds

I would join gladly sounds fun pm me if. You all are still doing it

Mon, 05/27/2013 - 20:55
#48
Orkwrath's picture
Orkwrath
+>9000!

Include Me! Sounds like fun.....I have all the requirements.

Tue, 05/28/2013 - 09:01
#49
Whimsicality's picture
Whimsicality
3

I'm down for something like this.

Tue, 05/28/2013 - 13:51
#50
Thunder-Smasher's picture
Thunder-Smasher
Sounds fun

Sign me up
Going to be fun

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