Spiral Knights - The WRH Dash is Unfair to Mist Bombers in LD! (NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS)

The WRH Dash is Unfair to Mist Bombers in LD! (NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS)

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Thu, 05/02/2013 - 08:19

Zorbez

After a few weeks of pure bombing in T2 LD, I realized something was not right. How do hammer users KEEP DASHING over my mist clouds without getting statused?! At first, I thought it was just me being super unlucky as always, but I keep seeing this happen again and again! To top it off, the dash kills me with its explosions! Being a recon bomber (I prefer the cloak, deathmark+blast bomb is very nice :3) I have no way to defend against these hammer dashes except to dodge. But the EXPLOSIONS keep hitting me!

Edit: Possible solutions:

Auto-fire: Make the WRH dash slower, make the dash move you less far, or both.

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 08:32

Autofire

You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

They don't get any special immunity. It's just that they move so fast that they don't get ticked enough times to get the status. These bombs have a CHANCE to do a status in an AoE. The reason it always works is because it just does a ton of damage-less hits which can deal the status. When you move very quickly through the haze, only a few ticks get dealt. The hammer moves you so fast that users can literally jump through the cloud with possibly one tick only. (And it's rare for a single tick to do the status.)

The solution would be to have the dash not move the user so far, move him slower, or both.

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 08:44

Little-Juances

Grab a Guardian and stand on the mist. It doesn't deal tons of ticks.

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 08:55

Zorbez

Ok...

@Autofire: That's actually quite a good idea! It would also make hammer users easier to hit as they won't fly too fast or too far with the dash. They can't complain too much either, the explosions and damage are still there :3

@Little-Juances: You mean those *ting* sounds I hear when guardians step on mist bombs? Yeah, it does seem to do just a moderate amount of ticks.

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 14:09

Autofire

You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

@Little

Actually, that's not true. Hit a guardian with a cutter or a autogun, and you'll see that the guardian shield flinches just as much as it does in a mist bomb's haze. The reason for this is because, while a shield is taking damage (the shield gets pushed back in the animation), the shield and the user can't take anymore damage. It's because of this short "grace period" that you can still move as a guardian while under a barrage of attacks.

Don't believe me? Try a Dark Retribution to a guardian shield and compare it to how many hits per second it does to slimes.

Fri, 05/03/2013 - 03:34

Hexzyle

What Autofire is trying to say is the Shield has invinciframes too.

Sat, 05/04/2013 - 19:37

Zorbez

Done

Edited the post to reflect the suggestion courtesy of Autofire. Thanks guys :3

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