Thank you for raising skill floor and nerfing enemies yet again.
10/10 game design, can't wait for the next patch when it happens again.
Love,
Neo
Thank you OOO
Fri, 05/03/2013 - 15:49
Fri, 05/03/2013 - 18:00
#2
I wish I could check join
I wish I could check join dates and number of posts on the forums. It would really clear things up.
Fri, 05/03/2013 - 18:10
#3
Clear what up? What do you
Clear what up? What do you wanna know?
If you thought that was supposed to be a stab at you, read again. I've been playing since launch, and i've quit. I'm just trying to give you healthy advice, which is that OOO dont care about your complaints
Fri, 05/03/2013 - 18:25
#4
The papaya is confuzzled
@Djawed
And you know this because? Honestly, if he wants to thank OOO for [insert reason here], then just let him do it >.>
Fri, 05/03/2013 - 18:47
#5
Okay then. Good night peeps
Okay then. Good night peeps
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 01:35
#6
-______________________________-
Well, the game is more focused on getting more players, and is focused on the newbs.
Battlesprites, Missions, UI, Boosting and such, nerfs,ect.
So they are.
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 06:25
#7
Propthet of lies says truth... ;_;
Let's counterattack and discourage newbs ]:>
I suggest spam bots in rescue camp for start <:[
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 09:03
#8
Prophet tells the truth.
Yep.. they dont give a rats [bucket] abut the endgamers... who R the ones who spend crazy amount of money to get LD gear. THey just want the newbs to feel better.. Yep dont expect any buffs or even Tier 4 guys.. X_X
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 11:23
#9
Expect buffs? No.
T4 is a stretch, but that's the only thing that could fit in with their master plan, and satisfy those of us who have been here supporting them all this time.
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 11:45
#10
If you're worried about new players, nerf enemies abilities in T1-T2, leave T3 as it is (was). There's no need to talk about a T4.
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 11:57
#11
Juan, yea, but T2 doesn't really need a debuff...
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 12:31
#12
Juances, the problem with that its even if they nerf T1 T2 monsters to please newbs they will reach T3 sooner or later, because now the game is even more easier:
-No time wasted in looking for recipes in Basil Runs, neither with players or AH, since HoH have every recipe in the game (Except Bosses Recipes)
-No missions restrictions: anyone can join in any mission that they dont have unlocked, also missions can be done over and over again while should be 1 time or at least 1 time per day (but easily avoidable to join someone else who hasnt accomplished the mission before).
with things like that, players dont spent most of their time in their Tier, So instead learning how to play as we do in arcade days, they just rush in the most profitable mission over and over again without spent lot of energy on it.
So no matter if they nerf Tier 1 or Tier 2, now players cahn easily reach Tier 3 thanks to Vanafarm, and so, player just rush trough their tier without take the time to learn shield cancel shield bump, shield charge, etc. so when they reach Tier 3 they die easily cuz their hurry to reach endgame content.
yeah... OOO will keep nerfing enemies thanks to that.
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 12:43
#13
/reply
since HoH have every recipe in the game (Except Bosses Recipes)
Don't forget the PvP, Graviton series and Shadow lair recipes.
If you're worried about new players, nerf enemies abilities in T1-T2, leave T3 as it is (was).
Let's assume players didn't farm Vana from day 1 and went through a mediocre tiers 1 and 2 naturally. If the enemies in tier 3 had been rebuffed to their previous state then the difficulty spike would hit the new players like a sledgehammer in the face, and that would probably be worse for the game than what we currently have.
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 13:58
#14
my 2 cents
Who here can do FSC SL no rez solo?
If it's too easy then step up a notch...
Take proto gear if you complete first challenge
The game is hard, of course if you are decked out with UV's and all the specialize weapons and gear yourself for each mission it's gonna be easy...
"but FSC SL in proto gear is too easy"
said no one
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 14:52
#15
SL difficulty upscale is only
SL difficulty upscale is only possible because you have to pay for it. You don't expect the f2p players with a generally low level of skill to have access to this content. I just played RRT for the first time today and I enjoyed it, was very danmaku. This is why I want to push expansion missions with an upscale of difficulty.
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 16:06
#16
-Facepalm- @ Shamanala
Really? just go away.. You ARE supposed to use specialized weapons and gear that are advantageous for each of the missions.. WTF.. why do you think the arsenal thing was made available at the start of many depths..? seriously just.. go.
This IS a game, but that doesnt mean you have to become a brainless child and play the game without any strategy or putting any effort in it..
Shamanala are you using any logic in your arguments? Why would a casual gamer go through the trouble of trying to solo a UFSC with his own 1800 ce key.. with high risk of failure and ce rev wastage? Do they have to go that far just for some more harder/thrilling content?.. or maybe ur just a troll.. in which case I shouldn't respond to ur posts in the future.. just like how ridiculous some of these "OOO Defense Force" posts have been.
My 2 cents, is that UR 2 cents would do better staying in ur pockets.
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 16:26
#17
The skill ceiling in this
The skill ceiling in this game is extremely high. Don't believe me? Play lockdown and you'll understand. A player with a speck of talent can destroy a team singlehandedly. This game reminds me of gunzonline in its infancy stages in terms of skill floor/ceiling. There needs to be a tier higher than 3 to pander to this type of player. Also, you can nerf the clockworks all you want but nobody honestly gives a flying you know what because NOBODY PLAYS IT. You can try to balance lockdown by giving easy to use weapons like Warmaster Rocket Hammer but you can't close the skill gap between a player like Feller and your random Cobalt armor scrublord. OOO wants the Angry Birds audience but they know that they aren't going to waste their time plaing this kind of game when they could play Plants vs Zombies on their phone. Why even begin to ask for these kinds of players when I doubt any of them play PC games in the first place. I assure you the average age of the SK player is 17-25, maybe pander to this audience first before we all drop out (RIP in peace Knightmare, you were the least crap out of all the guilds of your time. RIP in peace gear theory and abusing game mechanics, metagame is dead). Me? Oh I'm 22, and I'm a law student with a major in game design (Unconventional? yes.)
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 16:30
#18
Wait What?
Quote: "Clear what up? What do you wanna know?
If you thought that was supposed to be a stab at you, read again. I've been playing since launch, and i've quit. I'm just trying to give you healthy advice, which is that OOO dont care about your complaints. " end quote.
He's been playing since launch and then he "quit"... why are you still here then?!
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 16:32
#19
@Glitchedpixel
Like me he
@Glitchedpixel
Like me he probably thinks OOO will nail it on the head one day.
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 16:43
#20
> Also, you can nerf the clockworks all you want but nobody honestly gives a flying you know what because NOBODY PLAYS IT. You can try to balance lockdown by giving...
Apparently me and my guildies are a bunch of nobodies since we think that the actual game is much better than the turbo wolvers mini-game. õ_õ
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 19:59
#21
In all seriousness, my gripe
In all seriousness, my gripe with OOO is 100% PvE only. Dash and SB actually raise skill ceiling in PvP if anything and holds the possibility of a new metagame in lockdown. I'm really grateful for this nudge in the right direction.
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 21:12
#22
The papaya is confuzzled
Soooooo......what are we talking about again? XD
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 21:32
#23
@Neodasus
Dash and Shield Bash won't BE in PvP.
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 21:55
#24
Actually I posted a thread
Actually I posted a thread about Shield Bash "facts" since my friend had it for a while after the patch. He was unable to use it in lockdown, and a de locked that thread saying it was not a finished product. We don't know for sure, actually.
BTW I played the Onyx Titan Gate and liked it! D28 Warrens so fun!
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 21:55
#25
Actually I posted a thread
Actually I posted a thread about Shield Bash "facts" since my friend had it for a while after the patch. He was unable to use it in lockdown, and a de locked that thread saying it was not a finished product. We don't know for sure, actually.
BTW I played the Onyx Titan Gate and liked it! D28 Warrens so fun!
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:24
#26
Well you can't shield bash
Well you can't shield bash because you don't have a shield in lockdown.
Sat, 05/04/2013 - 23:27
#27
The papaya giggles
@Hexy(Hexzyle)
HEADBUTT!
Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:10
#28
The papaya is cute
wut.
Sun, 05/05/2013 - 00:28
#29
The Krakob explains
Sun, 05/05/2013 - 01:25
#30
Gota agree, the warrens are
Gota agree, the warrens are pretty neat. I died a few times since that update!! So weird!
Nitronome dominates them, but they're quick enough to still get hits in if ya dont dodge
Sun, 05/05/2013 - 02:54
#31
my 2 cents
You wanted a challenge and it's too hard now?
Get real...
1,800 ce is a lot, hence why solo-ing SL is a harder challenge... get your *** together and go do FSC with a Sentenza, it ain't that hard... I'm not saying doing it with proto gear, I'm just saying there ARE difficult challenge that people do not even want to go in them
So the game is hard...
You just said it
Shamanala are you using any logic in your arguments? Why would a casual gamer go through the trouble of trying to solo a UFSC with his own 1800 ce key.. with high risk of failure and ce rev wastage?
He wanted a challenge I gave him one... now it's too hard... go do Danger Missions on your own with funky gear instead you cry-babies -_-
*cries the game is easy*
*points out hard part*
*cries it's too hard*
go figure...
Edit: Game difficulty vs user handicap difficulty isn't the same thing at all and you enjoy much more a challenge you made yourself than the ones Dev does... In many games people have done this... Whether you consider it illogical is another story
Edit 2: Had to find this
Sun, 05/05/2013 - 09:32
#32
If you need to use the wrong type of gear in the "hard" missions of the game to have some challenge it's already proof that the game is easy as hell, your logic makes no sense, man.
OOO has proven they dont care about players like you, so why keep playing till the next patch. Arent you just being a tool?