Promotes kill stealing and dedicated kills and means that people who whittle down other's health for others to finish off, or for people who work in pairs don't get any recognition

Unless the clone strikers beat the recons and guardians so far into submission they can't tell the difference between a capture point and a wall. Which happens frequently, because skilled recons and guardians are few and far between.

~A clone guardian

Combine damage/kills with caps/defenses, and make raw damage/kills invisible.

Flat caps and defenses might give 3 'points', kills would give single 'points' for caps/defense based on the status of the nearest control point, and damage would give a point at specific values depending on tier (IE: 1k damage in T3?).

It is now harder for people to act like pompous braggarts and it's easier to judge how useful you were as a whole to the team. Win win.

A kill should be valued more than someone that whittles down someone's health imo.

So when I play games where I Voltaic Tempest, Stagger Storm, and Venom Veil people into oblivion, I deserve to be discriminated against because my KDR is 0? How is a kill valued more when that kill was performed on a player who is shocked and stunlocked so they can't react? Yeah, I'm really seeing how that's worth big points. -.-

PTO
Play The Objective

@Dragneel-Wiki Do not start that now.

Adding KDR makes players forget the Objective.
In Video Games, KDR is better to show off so adding a KDR counter will stop players from Capture/Defend to just finding 4* Cobalt players to dice up.
And then theres the ego behind being the "best" player.
Heck, I might even turn to the Dark Side if KDR was introduced. I'll probably forget about being a teamplayer to just being an arsehole. (Its happened before :_)

KDR is too risky

Alright, my last post was kind of quick and boring because I was on my phone, and I'd like to flesh that idea out a little more.

Now that I have an actual keyboard...

Damage/Kills will be thrown into an ambiguous offense/defense/general system. Depending on where you are and when at the time of doing something productive, you get a higher offense/defense rating.

Caps would give the highest amount of points, and you'd get either O/D depending on where the point is relative to your base (mid-map points give half of each). Kills would give about a third of the capping reward, and assisting kills by damaging the target should give a little less than netting a kill yourself.

Speaking defensively.. well, these are a little lacking, but whatever. Blocking a point capture would incrementally award points as you protect/revert it. Eliminating opponents close to your control points/spawn doors will give a little too.

Now, those general points. These are the weird ones that aren't here nor there but still deserve recognition. Finding a stealthed Recon, eliminating shadowfire tiles, opening gates near your base, healing others as a Guardian, throwing snow onto the enemy team, et cetera. I don't know how much people would like this next one, though, but I think it'd help the LD community a bit: you get points just by staying near teammates. It'd offer incentive to help your team rather than be 'That Guy' who does nothing but aim for damage/caps by himself.

The goal of this new point system, if it wasn't clear, is to (hopefully) tone down the glory hog disposition so many players exhibit and to push people to play as a team. You can't track your damage, deaths, caps, point defenses, kills, or anything... you just get it all lumped together in categories.

Oh, who am I kidding, people will still fart around saying 'i'm the best look at my stats it's not like i'm lucky or anything'. But ranting about how luck-based high value stats are in Lockdown is for another time and thread.

I've already said my opinion on the topic, but about the importance of kills/deaths/dmg... the ideal score for a team is low caps, slightly higher defends, and high damage. Why? Because it means they took all the points and never really had much competition, and then pounded the enemy team for the rest of the game. But in random LD, when defense is almost never an option because of the teamwork and coordination is required (unless you're an amazing guardian bomber), caps are usually the most important because you are constantly taking the enemy points from them. What's the point of 10 defends, if all the other points were controlled by the other team the whole game? Yes, damage can make a difference too, but indirectly. Captures win games, damage gives teams the chance to capture, defends lower the importance of getting more caps. So Caps>dmg=defends, in RLD.

A kill should be valued more than someone that whittles down someone's health imo. Why? Dead people don't cap.
You killed 10 people in LD. 9 of those had 1 pip left because the person that formerly tried to kill them took most of their health but died in the attempt. Who's more valuable? The guy who nearly killed them from full health; or you, who killed when they had almost no health?

Don't kid yourself.

The objective of LD, as a team is winning. How you do that is up to you. Caps are great, defends are great.
A skilled player taking out the other team's members? Don't fool yourself: equally great.
You're missing the point... the objective is to capture and hold points. If you impose a K/D Ratio, people will be more interested in killing, than in capturing. Resulting in people just not bothering to capture. This already happens.

Adding this could potentially make it even worse.

Maybe if you add the "Time you stood on Points, trying to capture them" would be good along side with K/D?

@Hexzyle: And even more online PvP games do have one?

Other online PvP games are more heavily based around kills than actual objectives. Even the seemingly objective based game modes like the ones on Call of Duty are heavily influenced by kill streaks, and MOBA games require you to kill people to gain XP to win.

Name another Team-Based game where you can contribute to the win without actually killing anyone.

After reading Masterofkings' post, I suggest the following in addition to what I said before:

1. Assists: When you reduce the health of an enemy with (Let's say 5% of his health), and someone else kills him, you get an assist.
2. Time Spent on Points (Already said that): The time you wasted capturing points or retaking them from the enemy.
3. Time Stayed Alive: Shows if you were a good guardian/bomber or even a good supporter.
4. Kills
5. Deaths

I guess with these 5 together, no one will lose credit for doing a specific job and winning, right?

You could separate Assists into Assists with Status Effect, Assists with Damage, and Assists with Guardian Shield. Status Effects would include the Recon Death-Mark.

Also, any instance where someone runs back to base (from at least X distance, don't want to get credit for poking a guy outside spawn that is delayed all of one second) after fighting you, without capping or fighting other players, could be counted as a "Block".

A "Backcap" could be gained from taking a point when players are fighting on another point closer to your own base. Whether this is supposedly good (distracts enemies by causing them to leave the main front) or bad (makes it easier for enemies on the main front), it would help to be measured. "Damage Healed" and "Damage Blocked" could, of course, measure the amount of damage healed/blocked by a Guardian Shield. (It's nice to have a Guardian around to keep the Strikers and Recons going strong and to block Polaris shots.

It's hard to measure things like a Recon doing some kind of wicked awesome misdirection or distractination (leading an enemy push to 1 while his team caps everything else, anyone?), Freeze-Locking two enemies in a corner, holding a chokepoint to keep enemies off your CP, or using chat macros or epic typing skeelz to communicate with your team. Still, the stats could always use some updating.