What if we could see the heroes in action? But maybe make them in the distance in an unreachable are which looks like a part of the level :P
-TMP
New Scenario room(s) featuring the 9 heroes
Sun, 05/19/2013 - 12:46
Sun, 05/19/2013 - 16:11
#2
@Owaoforum
They just need to have higher stats. There is already AI in place for knights that use swords (recruits and mechas) and knights that use Blitz Needle (that captain guy in the training missions). They might need new AI to represent Remi.
Sun, 05/19/2013 - 19:05
#3
+1
100% Skye-Lightning approved!
Yeah, this would be cool, when you're with the heroes...
Sun, 05/19/2013 - 19:30
#4
Great idea, love the idea of seeing them in action
I think this is a good idea overall, and that it would be a good addition to scenario rooms. They are really boring right now, just sitting around the campfire (LAME) and sleeping knights (yawn) seeing these guys fighting monsters would really make them a more desirable entinty in the game.
-Z
Sun, 05/19/2013 - 21:39
#5
I'm all for it... I'd love to see a shadow defender shadow defending.
Mon, 05/20/2013 - 07:49
#6
Thanks for the positive posts :D
@Owaoforum You could always use a normal knights animations like the ones you save in prestige missions and intact some rank, but they do poor damage. To make these heroes look good killing monsters OOO could always just massively buff their damage. (If they ever do go through with this idea).
@Fehzor That made me laugh, but you have a good point. I'd say to just give the defender + Zebulon heroes a Leviathan Blade simply because it is the standard sword given to users, but it would also be better if they were able to swap their weapons, so hero Jorin wouldn't just be using another Leviathan Blade, he could swap and get out his Acheron or Big angry bomb too.
Mon, 05/20/2013 - 08:10
#7
Zebulon could use Cold Iron Vanquisher. He uses gear that "targets specific monster types", no?
Mon, 05/20/2013 - 08:31
#8
@Potato
You must be crazy. Defenders don't use weapons!
Mon, 05/20/2013 - 10:17
#9
Uhh...
@Owaoforum True, but Im not sure if it really matters XD But actually if this did happen it would be more entertaining to watch them with different weapons anyway.
@Krakob Well... they COULD stand there shadow defending as Fehzor said previously :D But if you think I am crazy (*twitches), what could they do?
-TMP
Mon, 05/20/2013 - 11:58
#10
Beep Boop
Or we could add them into some of the starter Missions so they're not just the Arcade without Danger and Scenario Rooms. I know there are the ones that have their own custom Scenario Rooms, but the majority of Missions are just boring Clockwork Tunnels without anything in them. Make them interesting!
The best place to do this would be the Missions that Hahn has you go on so you know what monsters deal what damage types. There's one for each damage type of each Tier, making a total of nine missions. You could see each of the nine heroes in action in their own Mission! (Plus, it would be a huge help to people who happened to not make that specific defense armor. Especially the Arena Missions can turn into a roadblock for some players...)
OOO can even add them in a few other ways.
- Have the Heroes in their full 5* gear in early Missions. Newer Knights can get a taste of the power that 5* offers and have more drive to progress through the game.
- Have the Heroes progress along with the Knights. They'd have equipment equal to the player, so the player can see how other pieces of equipment level up and function.
But yeah. I like the idea. Make things more interesting.
Mon, 05/20/2013 - 12:14
#11
It would be interesting if there were cinematics
Mon, 05/20/2013 - 14:49
#12
I would say to replace Rhendon with them... but I like Rhendon T.T
Mon, 05/20/2013 - 15:58
#13
Beep Boop
I know some people don't really like Rhendon, but I like him too. I wouldn't mind seeing him around in Haven every now and then, maybe with a group of newbie Knight NPCs that just came from the Camp. It would add a little more life to the game for one thing.
Something else they could do is maybe make challenges that the 9 Heroes give you to accomplish to prove your rock salt. It would be themed to what their armor and equipment is supposed to used against, making players (and OOO) understand just what to do with these armors that are available.
Jorin would teach you the basics and advanced maneuvers (Dash and Bash).
Echo would show you the importance of sword combos and maybe shield cancelling.
Daxen would give you target practice on still and moving targets and maybe switch shotting.
Remi would give lessons on proper timing, placement, and use of the variety of bombs.
Izola would make you put your shield to use, teaching you all the tricks to blocking, bumping, and bashing.
Archilus would tell you to buy Chaos armor and nothing else.
Sylvin, Zebulon, and Walkon would stare at each other while making bubbly noises with their mouths...
Mon, 05/20/2013 - 19:35
#14
ideas! yay!
@Zopy:
Jorin, Echo, Daxen, Remi, and Izola could be found in a new, improved, and more expansive Advanced Training Hall. They would basically take the place of the small text bubble explaining what certain things do, and maybe also demonstrate for you.
Sylvin, Walkon, and Archilus could accompany knights on the damage-type specific missions. You know, the ones that take up one rank and end with an arena? They could have a cutscene where they show off some of their skills, maybe tanking damage for the less-protected knights or something. Then they would help you through the first mission and leave, and you would see them again at the end of the arena mission.
Zebulon… should be removed from the HoH because all of his recipes are “special”, and only Basil is supposed to have special recipes. :)
Tue, 05/21/2013 - 07:25
#15
I feel like were coming off topic here...
@Zopyros-ll Maybe you should make that a suggestion yourself, instead of changing the idea of mine
-TMP
Tue, 05/21/2013 - 08:51
#16
Beep Boop
Sorry! D:
I like your idea and just wanted to expand it a little bit!
I do admit that at least seeing the Heroes (hell, even the other Knights like Feron and Vaelyn) actually do something would be pretty cool. But they should still interact with the players a little bit. Having them in an unreachable area with enemies fighting them would probably make players feel like they have to go and help them, then get disappointed when they realize that they can't. It could even give off the vibe that they're fighting a losing battle and that you won't see them again. While that would be awesome from a story perspective, it probably wouldn't work here...
Or you could do the Heroes in an unreachable part of a level and you're racing to a party button/elevator for a reward or something?
Or maybe make it so you can interact or help them in some way? Like a special Danger room or something where instead of opening an Energy door you revive them?
Tue, 05/21/2013 - 09:34
#17
RhenRhenRhenRhendooooooon
These are great ideas, i hope an admin reads some of these and takes it into consideration.
I love Rhendon.
Tue, 05/21/2013 - 11:07
#18
@Zopyros-ll I just re-read
@Zopyros-ll I just re-read what I had put and it sounded quite rude, I apologise for that :P I do like the idea of seeing the heroes in the Training hall. Also if this did happen the 9 heroes would be in the far distance in an unreachable area simply just killing monsters over and over again, or at least a few monsters until they stop. Or you could have it sometimes like they all cheer when all the monsters are dead and sometimes when they all retreat to an elevator when they can't handle their situation. Im not sure what you can do with Feron and Vaelyn, if you have played Operation Crimson Hammer right near the boss you see the Feron and he says things like he's been injured, and (Feron now slowly falls down to one side) but you never see him take action. Perhaps OOO just kept it this way to make things simpler, or so he doesn't just walk you through it...because he's the Feron :P
I think that Rhendon (and even Vaelyn) could also be a possibility, but I don't think they should do the same as the heroes.
Well it would be really nice to see them in action... Other than standing like animated statues in Hall of Heroes.
Wait, you mean them right? Echo, Remi, Daxen, Archilus, Sylvin, Walkon, Zebulon, Izola and Jorin... Yeah, that's 9.
Although animating them is another issue... have some jelly cube spawner that spawns jellies while they smack it like the recruits we save in prestige missions? Wait no, those recruits are absolutely horrible at killing things. :L