#1
papaya couldn't be more wrong. Spiral Knights have been redoing promo's left and right, even slipping old promo items into new promos that are seemingly unrelated. (they had dragon wings promo, then some time later did the heaven/hell promo and threw divine valk wings and volcanic dragon wings into the promo). They redid the winter items during the winter solstice / xmas event. They will surely re-do the summer items in a summer solstice/july 4th type event (at least time-frame wise). They redid the party items during the 2nd anniversary event.

It stands to reason we will see more hallow stuff next halloween and that we will see the love stuff for a 3rd time coming next valentines day. Soooo, yeah. Promo's are being rehashed all over the place.

#2
With all that being said, the valkrye wings do not have a set holiday, event, or time-frame that would lend to a logical relaunch. Also, OOO should not, and will not, promo them again because one player wants them more than life itself. If you haven't found a pair its because you haven't been looking hard enough or you are not willing to spend the requisite currency for them. I too have seen them cycle through the auction house with surprising regularity for a "rare" accessory. When rare accessories are hard to attain the answer isn't to make them less rare. There are so few things on this game that remain rare, every time that rarity is diluted the game loses a little bit of its luster.

--I say all this despite there being rare stuff that i still want and cannot find. Stuff that would cost a ton. I want prism parrying blade like no other. I'd like a prism tenna's, prism com unit too. These are so far and few between and cost so much when they come around. I may never get these items. I'd rather that i never get them than that they become common place. I wish the quicksilver helm was still the rarest helm on the game. I wish Kat hats would have been a rare drop. I wish there were more Darkfang Shield type items on the game. But alas, they don't care what i wish for any more than they care what you wish. And others would disagree with me, just as i disagree with you.

Cause, bluntly speaking, if you haven't sold your stockpile by now, or at least a good portion of it, you aren't gonna sell it.

If you haven't found a pair its because you haven't been looking hard enough or you are not willing to spend the requisite currency for them

This.

I got some Toasty valk wings cheap and wanted to see if it'll sell and someone (who I blocked due to him being obnoxious) wanted to buy it off for 150k cr because he bidded once on some Toasty valk wings at 150k cr

You don't need to be a genius to understand he won't get any valk wings soon -_-

@ heavy rare stuff are rare because they are hard to obtain or unattainable anymore.

I personally like to think I have items that nobody can get in-game, they have to trade someone who has it to get it.

It add a depth to the market economy which is not a bad thing.

Having the same promos again

-1

Having 0.000001% to loot shadow valk wings in iron lockboxes? sure why not, it allows a certain amount of wings to be in the game and stay in the game while the population *may* leave and it won't flood the market or drop the price from it too much

A lot of MMORPG and RPG has those little odds, Diablo II had thousands of item that had 0.000005% to drop (zod, pbotd, gg blue items, gg crafted items such as +3 skiller amy, LL rings and whatnot) and they were plenty on the server flowing in, even before D2JSP came to life

SK need something like this to constantly implement items that cannot be created in-game

Redo the entire promo.

It might be beneficial to include (some, not all) older items as -part- of another promo. Like the love aura being introduced with the forever love puppy mask, or the crown / crest of winter reemerging with frosty sets.

The rates were still incredibly low (not in love aura's case), but their presence allowed a dip in pricing to a rate that was reasonable.

Also, I'd like to note that rarity does not necessarily mean exclusive to a specific group. The items were marketed as limited, not exclusive; and, correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not think that any promotion so far has advertised any promo item as "one time only."

No one is saying that they should remain the exclusive content of those who were around for the first promo. But to claim that they should redo the promo because "I want them. They are too expensive," is as self-centered as it is narrow minded.

To ask collectors to philanthropically sell them for less than they are worth is also absurd. You might as well go to walmart and declare they should sell products for far under market value and then accuse them of hoarding perishables and non-perishables. You also fail to take into account the risk one assumes in investing (be it in real life, or in promo items on this game), you fail to take into consideration the time value of money (if i spend 1m crowns on an item to HOPEFULLY resell for 2m in a year from now....thats an entire year that i've had 1m crowns tied up in an item. For that entire duration i am accepting the risk that the market will be flooded with this item and i'll lose crowns on it. if that happens, none of you are sending charity to the investor to make up for their loss).

Next up, the hoarder fallacy. The have-nots erroneously assume that they have been frozen out of these items compliments of hoarders and merchants. That we have purchased and squirreled away wings (or other items) that otherwise would have been yours. NO! We are the reason you can have these nice things well after they were released. Granted, they come at a premium. But if no one held these to sell for later then they'd have all been consumed now by end users and you'd have none on the open market. Costumes would be unattainable entirely, even if you had 1m CE, and accessories would cost just as much if not more, and you could only get them pre-bound, losing the ability to put them on you want. (enjoy paying full price + an unbinding fee).

So for those of you who want rare stuff that was issued ages ago, you should be creating thank you threads to these "evil hoarders."

Lastly,
I am all for these items being freely (or nearly freely) attainable in game. I'd love to see ALL costume pieces, even G1 rose regalia all be added to the random drop tables with appropriate (very low) % chances. I'd like to see all accessories be attainable (again with appropriately low percentages) through lockboxes. Yes, you should have a chance at getting shadow dragon wings, or cool valk wings in a lockbox, not a chance worth gunning for one, but enough so that SOMEONE SOMETIME will unbox one, and it could be you.

They should add old promo boxes (storm, winter, heaven/hell, frosty, hallow, surge, etc...) as rare items on the end of level wheel.--put UV tickets on there too, while you are at it, OOO.

There are so many easy way to keep rare items rare while making them still current. But to simply redo a promo, or throw old promo items into current promos, or to cry about those of us who facilitate the only source of old items and erroneously think we are the cause of them not being here *facepalm*, or to decree taht we should sell them for less and tehy aren't worth what we charge on them....its all rubbish.

Its as ridiculous as claiming that OOO is price gouging on featured auctions. Don't blame us merchants, blame yourselves, the consumers who compete against one another, you are the ones that set the price, not us.

/rant
/reality

p.s.
hi-five shamanala.

Still, I know of merchants who will purposefully buy out all the featured and hoard it for a year. There's a core group of merchants who basically camp the AH every day and raise prices on featured, and then do what de beers diamond co does and artificially reduce supply. I'm not gonna bid war, they all can hoard these items that will never get used while they hope someone will pay the 10x markup they place on it. They can toot their own horn, I'm not gonna be a part of their demand system.

Point taken, aggressive or not it's reasonable, and I'll concede on that point.

I think it would be a bit... daft of me to generalize all recipients of older promo participants in the category that I stated previously. I was -attempting- to address Grant's group, but I did it a bit roughly it seems.

I'm all for rares being expensive. I'm all for purchasing them from people that were here before me. I just can't help but be disgruntled, though, at the fact that it sometimes gets to the point where markup almost doubles the normal going rate for certain accessories.

"I may never get these items. I'd rather that i never get them than that they become common place. I wish the quicksilver helm was still the rarest helm on the game. I wish Kat hats would have been a rare drop. I wish there were more Darkfang Shield type items on the game." --Uniquevariant

^Completely agree with you.

I didn't realize the Quicksilver Helm was once a rare helmet. Must have been before my time.