Spiral Knights - ███ BUFF PLAGUE NEEDLE ███

███ BUFF PLAGUE NEEDLE ███

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Fri, 05/31/2013 - 10:10

Koldsplin

FIRST REALISE this is my opinion :)

WHY BUFF? well, it's not a bad weapon, the thing it's WAAAAY easier to get a Venon Veiler and Blitz Needle and do a FAAAAR better job with them... it's not balanced, the special about plague needle should be the possibility of having a gun that would deal a bit more damage than blitz, but much more harder to get, which it is.

It should atleast:

- be a little weaker than blitz, not 30% like it is, perhaps just 15%
or
- Have a stronger poison, since it only amplifies 10% of the damage and blitz deals around 30% more damage
or
- A ASI buff, to make her shine in a different way since it should be something people would take over a blit in groups but ina very obvious way

this is my opinion, i have both weapons with CTR VH (max) with

if you DISAGREE feel free to make your point as long u don't troll, or split a dogma...
if you AGREE i think it's easier if OOO sees +1

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The weapons u get from the krogmo store should be something that would compensate getting those 300 krogmos, it's worth the voltedge over the other brandishes, or atleast it's worth getting those 300 tokens, the same goes for electron charge AND the same should go with plague needle.. which don't....

final note: sorry for any english mistakes i'm no a nativ, feel free to correct me if necessary,
+1 for plague needle buff!

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 11:27

Little-Juances

I know even after the poison blitz ends up doing more damage. But poison also reduces enemy attacks and prevents healing.
So it's not just about damage. And poison also buffs your allies attack on the monster, not only yours. If you're alone it may be useless, but it can shine in groups-

Plague NEEDS to be weaker. It offers an utility and team support instead of damage. Maybe give it a slight buff, but don't overdo it.

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 11:32

Skyguarder

First, why does everyone use ███ in their suggestion titles?

Second, if the blitz needle has an equal damage to the plague needle, not only it would slightly more OP'ed, but blitz needle would be pointless since plague needle does piercing and poison while blitz doesn't.

Third, there is probably no point since they are just going to get poisoned longer. If there is no way that they can heal, then again, it's pointless. It just reduces attacks and possibly take damage.

And fourth, a faster charge time is a CTR UV.

All recipes that can be brought with krogmo coins should not change or have the price changed. For each star, all recipes should be equal (For example: 3* recipes are about 50 krogmo coins. There should not be a 3* recipe worth 150 KK's.

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 11:41

Koldsplin

so little juances agrees with

so little juances agrees with me, a slight buff

and sky... thanks for helping me noticing that, EDITed

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 11:56

Zeddy

I've done calculations on Plague/Blitz, and one Plague + 3 Blitz is by far outmatched by 4 Blitz.

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 11:58

Koldsplin

+3 so far from me juance and

+3 so far from me juance and zeddy

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 13:01

Skyguarder

I don't think he gave a rating.

An ASI? Would it be medium or low?

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 16:21

Waffleconecake

first gun problems

The thing is fine how it is, the thing is a variation weapon, if you don't like the lower damage be like all the other blitz nubs.

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 16:33

Koldsplin

thank you waffle but we don't

thank you waffle but we don't need a model of a troll coment :)

IDK sky, what u think? i guess a low would be fine, but not as an incorporated uv like the swrod bonus from skolvers, it would be just faster u see? like a flourish is faster than a brandish, do u agree?

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 17:03

Skyguarder

Only because flourish is a piercing sword, so of course a flourish is faster than a brandish.

Fri, 05/31/2013 - 17:45

#10

Canine-Vladmir

I own a Plague Needle

I got no problem adding more damage to it! >:)
The more damage, the better.
Even though it might break the game and make Blitz uselss, who cares, right?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 03:23

#11

Koldsplin

i would love it 2 canine...

i would love it 2 canine... but OOO just won't do it i think... from the sai dpossible buffs would you agree with one?

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 04:07

#12

Hearthstone

Same reason as Juances, gotta thank him for saving me the time to write it.

Thanks, Juances :3

Sat, 06/01/2013 - 04:32

#13

Kimahsonite

My thoughts...

I don't understand this weapon. The Autogun lines aren't support weapons, they're meant to one-hit kill/significantly damage single targets at close-ish range (maybe that's not what they were supposed to do and OOO screwed it up but that's what they're best at). So the fact that this weapon causes poison in exchange for a huge damage reduction is weird. I reckon this weapon should be replaced with some useful Autogun (I don't have ideas).

But still, +1 from me for the Plague Needle fans.

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