Every. Single. Time. I. Reach. The. Prize. Wheel. It. Skips. One. Spot. Over. The. Lockbox. And. Lands. On. Something. Else... Any plausible reasons for why the prize wheel does this and tears my hope to shreds? Also, Does. This. Happen. To. You, Too? Why. Is. Typing. With. Periods. After. Everything. Strangely. Addicting?
Lockbox Taunting
Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:17
Wed, 06/12/2013 - 15:07
#2
...
Happens all the time to me. I've even opened some recently and I still don't get them on the wheel.
Wed, 06/12/2013 - 21:52
#3
Cheese!
In all my Spiral Knights career, I have only received one lockbox from the prize wheel. I hanged onto it for a long time. Then I sold it. Them silvers are pricey.
Thu, 06/13/2013 - 05:06
#4
It's just an animation,
It's just an animation, doesn't mean you almost got a Lockbox. You receive the item/pick-up/crowns before the wheel even spins, just watch your inventory icon closely next time you get a mat.
Thu, 06/13/2013 - 05:10
#5
I used to get lockboxes all
I used to get lockboxes all the time. I haven't seen the wheel one up in ages. But I know it must. I found one in my inventory last night. I sell them as soon as I get them.
Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:37
#6
Be excellent to each other
The wheel uses our tears as a lubricant, so the more we suffer from not getting the lockbox, the more likely that the wheel will be lubricated enough to "just slip past" the lockbox every time it is about to land on it on future spins. It is basically how life works.
Fri, 06/14/2013 - 02:12
#7
Hmm...
It has been observed that lockboxes are obtained from the prize wheel more often after opening one.
I'm currently trying to see if I can get myself stuck in a nice loop where I open one, and try to obtain enough lockboxes in the time following to sell to cover the cost of the key to open another, and repeat.
I've been able to get 1 or 2 a day if I play 2-4 hours that day, and open each box within an hour of receiving it. Going to start reducing the time between opening to try see how long this observed period of increased chance lasts to see if I can try get this loop to work.
Anyone else tried this, or have any experience of this?
Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:39
#8
Rawr
ITT: OOO activates the lockbox troll code once again.
Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:51
#9
dat subtle profiteering
Theres actually this pattern going on: people that regularly open a lot of lockboxes are much more likely to receive them from the prize wheel. So much for "entirely random." You didnt think anyone would notice did you, OOO? ;)
Fri, 06/14/2013 - 22:54
#10
Rawr
It hasn't been truly random and has been going on for ages. They disabled lockbox drops until recently with the taunting switched on. I remember mid-october some people got 10 boxes in one day. And yeah, opening more boxes tells the server to give you more boxes. OOO never said the wheel was truly random.
Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:06
#11
http://forums.spiralknights.c
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/27649
Nick's own words:
All Knights that complete levels in the Clockworks will now have an opportunity to spin the all-new Prize Wheel\! The Prize Wheel is displayed as your heat is tallied during the end of level report. There are all sorts of prizes to discover. Many of them are helpful boosts for your next floor like health or crowns, but the truly lucky players will be awarded Iron Lockboxes!
So wait a minute Nick, I thought you said.....
Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:13
#12
Rawr
It's random number out of a variable set range, with chances improved when you do stuff like use your keys by OOO altering the drop-box numerical range to compare the seed against. So in context of just f2p folk, it'd appear normal and luck based. :3
Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:22
#13
Can confirm the variance in probability in drops.
Can also confirm the "taunting" phenomenon, which has gotten constant enough that entire FSC parties will comment on it.
Of course then I had to go and actually manage to land on the box. Anyone selling a cheap Silver Key?
Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:25
#14
Rawr
Anyhow, it doesn't take a genius to figure out it's rigged when lockbox prices went down to 500 cr last October and shot back up to 10k cr a month ago.
Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:27
#15
dat false advertisin
"...random chance, but with chances improved when you do stuff like use your keys..."
Lets use some logic here for a couple secs. Ready? Cool, here goes: If chances of obtaining boxes are improved based on how often a player opens em, then that blatantly takes away the randomness in the first place. Random should mean exactly that, and should not favor any particular player.
Simply put, OOO favors the rich kids and the way they coded the prizebox is their way of saying "come on buy some more CE, here. Heres a lot of boxes for you to spend that CE on*snicker*" despite advertising the fact that only the truly lucky can get em. Isnt that false advertising? xD
Fri, 06/14/2013 - 23:35
#16
Rawr
If you buy and use keys it's still not a guarantee you'll get a drop. Just that the chances are made better. They keep the gravy train going just enough to make a nooblet waste all his ce on boxes.
Sat, 06/15/2013 - 17:02
#17
a block of cheese speaks
If you guys looked at the last sentence at the prize wheel section, it says:
Lockboxes have the highest chance of appearing in Tier 3, followed by Tier 2 and then Tier 1.
Hmmm...
this has been a thing for a while now