Spiral Knights - Special Turret Counterparts

Special Turret Counterparts

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Thu, 06/20/2013 - 10:07

Thunderskull

After some thinking, I have conceptualized how these counterparts would look like and attack, sadly there is no name for these concept monsters.

Undead family rocket puppy counterpart (OLD, New concept in progress)

This guy wasn't too hard to think of: A howlitzer with an extra pair of smaller horns parallel to each other, larger and more sharper teeth with a pair of these teeth being even longer than the rest, and more menacing eyes. It attacks by opening it's mouth and makes it's head glow, the glowing of the head leaves the monster with an exhaling sound and becomes a projectile which is in the shape of it's head. Here's the thing though, unlike a rocket from a rocket puppy, it does not explode in a sense of a rocket but instead this head shaped projectile will chase you and bite you to death until it dissipates into status inflicting mist similar in function to a greaver's mist.

Slime family rocket puppy counterpart (OLD, click here to go to new less ridiculous concept.)

This also didn't take very long to conceptualize: A polyp whom spikes are more curved and longer to an extant of it being completely easy to identify from a normal polyp. This creature shoots a slime ball covered in spikes that also does not explode like a rocket from a rocket puppy, instead this slime ball of spikes will orbit the targeted knight and barrage the knight with spike projectiles until it explodes into 360 degrees of spikes flying all over the place.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 10:48

Hexzyle

Aren't howlitzers already rocket puppies in a way?

I'd rather just see Royal Polyps in more places than your suggestion.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 10:58

Waffleconecake

NO, we don't need a clone of very thing

How about no? The rocket puppy is what makes the construction family's turrets unique. Each family is different at least in tire 3, slimes can see you from any were and fire all at once, un-dead become rockets when they die. Constructions have rocket turrets.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 11:02

Little-Juances

The super polyp thing belongs to a touhou game, not spiral knights.
I mean the way you describe it, it seems like an unavoidable hell

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 11:45

Thunderskull

Attack Timing and stuffs

Well it's not much of a barrage per say just that it will just shoot spikes ever so often, the 360 degree spikes come to think about is a bit much and the timing of the polyp would make it so that you wont find yourself having 2 slime balls orbiting you.. make that spikes that shoot in a random direction like a lichen does when the spike ball explodes. As for rocket puppy being a special turret well it is, but the howlitzer and polyp are not actually special, sure they have something that sets them apart from the basic turret of the gun puppy but they are normal turrets. Why would you want to see Royal Polyps; They are weaker versions of polyps that spam mini slimes.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 09:41

Sweet-Hope

Why would you want to see Royal Polyps; They are weaker versions of polyps that spam mini slimes.

Because spamming mini jellys to be a "distraction" for the knight while the turret shoot spikes at you its better than spam a rain of bullet which some of them can be blocked with shield if you cant avoid them. while mini jellys would surround and you have to kill them so you dont get damage or you shield get damage, a royal polyp can take on it advantage shooting you spikes with a chance a bit of chance of success to hit you.

(this can be easily seen when they spam mini jellys en the Royal Jelly / Ice queen, while you are distracted by the mini jellys, the polyps shoot the spikes and sometimes they hit you due you was busy dealing with the mini jellys)

As for rocket puppy being a special turret well it is, but the howlitzer and polyp are not actually special

For me they are:

Polyps: Unlike howlitzer and construct counterpart. they can see any knight on any direction since they are omnidirectional.

Howlitzer: its true that they dont have anything special only if they get killed they will launch their skull at the player in kamikaze style and if it a status inflicting howlitzer then you have a small chance to get the status from the explosion. but thats their advantage, an inexperienced player and sometimes veteran players, when they kill a howlitzer sometimes they feel like they are safe and focus on other monsters (or because they are about to get swarmed) giving the howlitzer the chance to hit their skull on players.

from all the types of turrets the game have, besides the rocket puppy, i consider the howlitzer the most dangerous: shadow damage, exploding homing skull (but at least you can kill it if you aim well).

Maybe you are right that turrets on a family should have special turrets on their family (like love puppy and rocket puppy on construct) but copying them i dont think its a good idea. i see the Royal Poly as special turret since it can spawn mini jellys. Maybe howlitzer need a 1 special turret but i dont think having another "homing" attack turret wouldnt make it "special" like the others.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 12:24

Thunderskull

Polyps and Reasoning

The New Polyp of Mini Spawning Goodness -Edit for slightly more descriptive descriptioning-

A polyp that has the same colorization of the glop drop it spawns or mini it spawns. This polyp will spawn a swarm of minis to distract you. It will shoot a single spike in tier 1 that is notably faster than normal polyp's spikes and then tier 2 it's still a single spike but even faster and in tier 3 it is either 3 spikes at the same speed as tier 2 or 1 spike that is even faster than tier 2's.

-Talking about now obsolete slime concept-

Well it's really only one bullet at a time at a reasonable interval the slime ball is shooting though, not like a machine gun of spikes. Well yes mini slimes are a distraction but the their single spike has such a low chance of hitting you its not even notable. Once or twice during the battle with Royal Jelly I get hit by their spikes that's usually after the Royal Jelly dies. :P

Well yes my idea was to have a special turret for the other families, and homing projectile came into mind since it would not change your tactics too drastically in different situations. But the idea of a polyp spawning jelly minis and glop drops in trade for their spikes seems like a viable idea, maybe even make their spikes faster so you will have less time to react when you actually notice it. As for the howlitzer, I think I can come up with an alternative.

Thu, 06/20/2013 - 23:13

Hexzyle

@Sweet-Hope

freezing a polyp isnt sign of safety, because they can still shoot on your direction since they dont need to turn at you to shoot their spike.

Nope. Frozen polyps can't change their direction of fire.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 09:39

Sweet-Hope

oh right i tested it now. but i could swear they can before. maybe was another polyp near around the one i froze. well they can add that property to them :P since they can see on any direction.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 21:58

Thunderskull

Herp and Derp

I can't think of anything about the undead special turret...... This is going to take a very long time.

An Analogy

It suddenly struck me, the royal polyp,royal polar polyp and the compound polyp of C42 share a similarity with the Rocket Puppy: They create something that homes in on you, monster(s) or exploding projectile or otherwise; they do the same thing, they chase you!! That being said my ideas were not as off as I thought they were, but still a bit extreme; I'll stick to newer concepts.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 05:20

#10

Blandaxt

I like the

I like bot ideas, theres only one thing i would like to know, how fast do these projectiles move and can we destroy them while there are homing toward us with a bullet or a sword slash?

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 05:27

#11

Hexzyle

@Thunderskull

They create something that homes in on you, monster(s) or exploding projectile or otherwise; they do the same thing, they chase you!!

Hence why I suggested it. We need more respawning enemies.
Heh, speaking of which, I wonder when the JGJ will be implemented.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 12:41

#12

Thunderskull

@Hexzyle

Heh, speaking of which, I wonder when the JGJ will be implemented.

You lost me at that acronym. Do you mean Jelly Green Giant or????

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 17:14

#13

Klipik-Forum

+1 for moar turrets! I liked the original Slime turret idea, it sounds a little bit like an overpowered version of the Catalyzer.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 23:22

#14

Hexzyle

@Thunderskull

You lost me at that acronym. Do you mean Jelly Green Giant or????

Yeah. I just keep forgetting the order of the words (thought it was Jolly Green Jelly)

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