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How to properly balance the pay out on Vanduke and make boss levels more fun!

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Fri, 06/21/2013 - 08:06
Waffleconecake's picture
Waffleconecake

Its rather simple really, make at least 3 versions of each boss floor similar to the clock work and set it on a rotation. "But wafflecone how would this balance out vanduke?" Well what the developers should do is find the average crown pay out for each level for a boss besides the actual boss fight and add some were from 500-1,000 crowns to it. This number will be maximum pay out that the floor can have for that set. By doing this some floors will have less pay out then others so you won't be getting a constant 7,300 crowns for vanduke runs but have the CHANCE of getting 8,000.

Just to clarify this idea lets say the first level, lets call it Watermelon, gives an average pay out of 2,000 crowns. Add 500 and you get 2,500. Now any floor for the boss in the same level rotation as the first boss level, Watermelon, can not be any more then 2,500 crowns and should probably be lower then 2,000.

The average pay out can be found by doing 5 runs on each level and then dividing the total crowns gained from all 5 runs by 5. So if you made in total 10,023 crowns the average pay out would be about 2,000 give or take a few crowns.

"But wafflebutt how would this make doing boss levels more fun?" Less repetition, you won't be playing the same 4 or 5 levels over and over and over and over again. The only level that will be repeated indefinitely would be the boss and they could COULD make slight variations to each boss level for look reasons but that is obviously not important.

The only issue I could find with this idea is the shadow lairs but I feel that we don't really need to change them but it could happen.

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 11:08
#1
Mtax's picture
Mtax

The one problem is, that SL are based on normal bosses levels, but... that isn't bad idea. +0.9

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 12:05
#2
Waffleconecake's picture
Waffleconecake
@mtax

I think I mentioned that we could figure out the SL lair versions latter once we get the normal ones seeing how not many SL runs happen often.
Either way thanks for the support.

Sat, 06/22/2013 - 00:39
#3
The-Mighty-Potato's picture
The-Mighty-Potato
I think we need Kats......LOTS AND LOTS OF KATS

But yeah....It is possible to get over 8K crowns, I once got 8.4K crowns (lucky me). But if you want levels to be more fun, bring Gravitation Vortex and Acheron :D

But there's always the old school way which is making it for FSC by arcade, that can make things more fun just by playing a few different levels before.

+0.6270985726912082738956201

Sat, 06/22/2013 - 07:52
#4
Waffleconecake's picture
Waffleconecake
cray cray pay pay @Potato

that kind of pay out is crazy for only 4 levels Potato, that's why we need to in some way "nerf" it.

Sat, 06/22/2013 - 10:25
#5
The-Mighty-Potato's picture
The-Mighty-Potato
Well, that's why people would do arcade XD

But think about it, 4 levels = 4-5K crowns?

Just the first 2 levels:

Gloaming Wildwoods - 1.8K - 2K+
Royal Jelly Palace - 2 - 2.2K+
Roarmulas Twins - 2 - 2.4K+

This would just basically be double, 4 levels means 2 - 2.5K crowns x 2 = 4-5K CR or whatever.

Sat, 06/22/2013 - 11:09
#6
Waffleconecake's picture
Waffleconecake
Not sure wht you are getting at here

Ok? are you trying to point out the crown pay out on them is crazy or something else?

Sat, 06/22/2013 - 11:30
#7
The-Mighty-Potato's picture
The-Mighty-Potato
No....

Seeing as you said my idea is crazy it's basically the same as other boss runs, but instead of 2 levels, it's 4. Instead of 2-2.5K crowns, it's 4-5K crowns. So if the pay-out if crazy for FSC, it's basically crazy for RT/JK/GW too. But my point is is that it would encourage people to do arcade. Like my title says; "Well, that's why people would do arcade XD".

Sat, 06/22/2013 - 12:16
#8
Waffleconecake's picture
Waffleconecake
Now I get what you were going at

OH now I get what you were going at, well the problem with that is people would often just join people at vanduke is the thing. I get what you mean but even that was flawed. The only way to fix it is to lower the pay out of vanduke him self.

Sat, 06/22/2013 - 13:49
#9
The-Mighty-Potato's picture
The-Mighty-Potato
How about adding a fee to join KoA?

If we keep the pay-out, and just make it so you have to pay to join the lobby. You have to pay 500cr at D19, why not 1K (at least) to join D24? (KoA). Although I have a feeling that people will join and then have to leave etc. and complain...

Sat, 06/22/2013 - 16:03
#10
Waffleconecake's picture
Waffleconecake
not really going to work

that won't really fix it as this entire idea is implying that we can get everyone to the arcade in the first place, that would take re-working the entire mission system and I don't feel like making another one of those threads.

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