So, as the title says, i dont know wich to get between DA and GF. Currently, i have Elemental and Normal swords... Evidently, you gonna say to choose GF because i dont have any shadow weapons, but my principal attraction is Vana Runs, like evryone, and in these runs, i'm using a Combuster.. DA is better then Combuster in Vana Runs.. So... I need both! Help!
Divine Avenger VS Gran Faust
Tue, 07/02/2013 - 14:14
Tue, 07/02/2013 - 20:34
#2
agree
This question has been asked countless times. Try searching Google (not the forum's search function) for something like "spiral knights forum avenger faust". My own answer is here:
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/User:Jdavis/Swords#Divine_Avenger_vs._Gran_Faust
DA is better then Combuster in Vana Runs
I strongly disagree. I used to use DA, and now I use Combuster (when I'm using swords). Combuster is extremely effective in Firestorm Citadel. You might want to read other parts of my sword guide --- for example, the part on elemental swords.
Wed, 07/03/2013 - 07:44
#3
>:C and C:
@Dementia-Praecox, I have searched about DA vs GF before making this thread.. On SK Forums, Steam Forums, Yahoo Answers and other nowhere sites about video-game... I dont know why u think i never searched about that.. I've not mentioned "I never searched about this on google :D" You know? I hate pepole who says something about someone without any ideas about what he did before or, you know? >:C
@Bopp, thanks! I will definitly choose GF cuz, anyways i want a shadow weapon for OCH (WRH, DR, Perfect mask of seerus) !! Anyways, Combuster is really good in FSC! It makes the job done fast!
Why you think DA is weaker then Combuster in FSC?
Wed, 07/03/2013 - 10:39
#4
DA vs. Combuster in FSC
Why you think DA is weaker then Combuster in FSC?
Well, they both work. DA used to be really popular in FSC, for a few reasons:
- The only elemental swords were DA and Fang of Vog --- no Brandishes above 2 stars, and no WRH.
- The zombie AI was different. The zombie swipe was more dangerous than it is now, but the zombie jump was less dangerous. I used to combo my DA into crowds of zombies and just cut them all down. Now the AI makes that tactic more difficult, so the damage per second of DA is not as good as it used to be.
- The DA charge attack was changed, so that it fails when the user's back is against a wall. This is not really a big deal, but it discourages many players from using DA.
- The Brandish charge attacks were strengthened, to the point where they kill about as well as DA's charges. That makes them somewhat better charges overall, because Brandishes charge more rapidly than DA, and let you move more quickly while charging.
Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:54
#5
Huehuehue.
@Scramineagle Funny, I just looked up "spiral knights forum divine avenger versus gran faust" on google and came up with a dozen threads about it on the first page alone. Try harder next time.
A lot of people prefer the Acheron over the Gran Faust, for several reasons. One, if you plan to get unique variants on it, it's much easier since it has a two-star form. Two, it has a charge attack that doesn't take a century and doesn't have a chance of cursing yourself. Three, it is much lighter than the Faust and has a "standard" three-hit combo that doesn't leave you nearly as vulnerable if you perform the whole combo as it would for a Faust. If you plan on using the Faust, never use the charge attack on anything except bosses and possibly elite monsters. Self-cursing is bad, mmmkay.
Thu, 07/04/2013 - 15:05
#6
I like GF beause it's the ONLY WEAPON IN THE GAME that causes curse. And crybabies complain about self-curse, but that only matters if you spam the charge AND you don't have a weapon slot upgrade AND you don't have any curse resistance.
But even so, if you already have acheron, you probably won't need it.
Of course, if you already have a brandish upgrade, you probably won't need DA either...
Thu, 07/04/2013 - 16:16
#7
They are both worth making in my eyes.
Fri, 07/05/2013 - 01:38
#8
Do you like heavy swords? If not, don't bother getting either.
If you do, then do you want another elemental sword or need a shadow sword? If you need another shadow sword the answer is obvious.
If actually comparing both (Someone tell me WHY anyone would EVER compare two weapons with different damage types.), Divine Avenger has a better charge overall, so get that over Gran Faust. The curse chance is usually not often enough and enemies die before curse is inflicted or even takes effect at all.
Regarding DA and Combuster:
Do you use normal swings or spam charges? If you use normal swings, get a DA because it can hit more at once (although Brandish provides higher damage-per-second to single targets). If you spam charges, I don't know why anyone would prefer DA over Combuster other than the wider reach. Combuster's charge is faster, safer, inflicts status, and has the same range (I think anyway).
Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:20
#9
Well qwao to be fair, they both have the same combo, speed, and similar charge attacks, so they're much more comparable than, say, Barbarous Thorn Blade and Warmaster Rocket Hammer.
Also don't underestimate curse. While GF's charge is slow and has a chance of self-curse (which is honestly a minor setback if you're at all prepared), it's also powerful and drills through + curses multiple enemies, and curse is probably the most damaging status in the entire game. Here's a tip: when an enemy is cursed, IGNORE IT and focus on other enemies. Otherwise you're just wasting your rare status effect.
Also GF has a chance of curse WHETHER YOU CHARGE OR NOT (the second combo hit). GF may be more risky than DA overall, but it's not without benefits.
Use the search bar before we beat you to death with it. There have been so many threads about this, it's not even funny.
As for what I think, DA outclasses the faust in terms of situational usefulness. There are far more constructs and undead in late-game than there are slimes and gremlins. Either way, they're both good weapons, just for different purposes, making them incomparable. As for the DA being better than Combuster in FSC, that's complete BS. They're both incredibly powerful weapons there, it really comes down to preference and playstyle. Not to mention, DA and Faust charges suffer from the somewhat-infuriating glitch that nullifies the spectral sword damage if your back is to a wall when releasing the charge.