Using Punch the Variant master
Tue, 07/09/2013 - 14:34
Simple question:
Say I have the following sword
Blah sword of blah
UV: Very high AS
UV: Very high CTR
UV: gremlin damage low
if I bought a 1 variant ticket, could I keep 2 of the variants by locking in? or do I have to use a 3 variant ticket?
Tue, 07/09/2013 - 15:30
#2
Thanks for the response, I
Thanks for the response, I was merely wondering what the cost would be to get the "perfect" weapon
Judging by the costs
Answer:
Your soul
Tue, 07/09/2013 - 15:40
#3
ASI and CTR are all you need anyways. It's impossible to cover all monsters with a damage UV, there's skolver for that.
Wed, 07/10/2013 - 03:45
#4
9,680,000 crowns
Little-Juances has pointed out the essential asymmetry between damage UVs and ASI/CTR UVs. This is what makes the blanket damage bonuses given by certain armors and trinkets so valuable. To estimate the expected (roughly speaking, average) cost of getting ASI+4 and CTR+4 on a sword or handgun, you can do a calculation like this:
First, you buy 1-UV tickets until you get one of these UVs. Assuming that each of the eight possible UV types has the same chances, you have a 2/8 chance of getting either ASI or CTR. The chances of getting +4 are roughly 1/16. (Don't take this number too seriously. I don't have detailed data on this.) Thus your expected number of tickets, to get either ASI+4 or CTR+4, is 1 / (2/8 * 1/16) = 64. Each ticket costs 20,000 crowns, for an expected cost of 1,280,000 crowns.
Next, you buy 2-UV tickets until you get your second UV. Assuming that each of the seven remaining types has the same chance, you have a 1/7 change of getting ASI or CTR (whichever you don't have locked in). Assuming that the chance of +4 is still 1/16 (this is really a wild guess, but let's go with it), your expected number of tickets is 1 / (1/7 * 1/16) = 112. Each ticket costs 75,000 crowns, for an expected cost of 8,400,000 crowns.
Thus the expected cost for getting ASI+4 and CTR+4 on a sword or handgun using Punch is 1,280,000 + 8,400,000 = 9,680,000 crowns.
Wed, 07/10/2013 - 05:09
#5
Seeing that math, it makes me
Seeing that math, it makes me so glad I only rolled 900K CR to get CTR H and ASI VH. Luckiness trumps all.
If you have three variants on a weapon, and you roll 1 UV on it, you loose ALL THREE of the UV's on the weapon, and are replaced with the new random variant.
So basically: Yes, you need to use a 3 variant ticket in order to keep those two VH UV's.
IMO, dont get greedy man and just keep those two VH's and leave it at that.