Spiral Knights - A 3* secondary for "The Weight of Darkness"

A 3* secondary for "The Weight of Darkness"

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Wed, 07/10/2013 - 14:36

Gent-Soopakoopa

My CTR:VH Khorovod has served me well through T2 and the first bit of T3, smashing through
enemies like a furious anvil of righteous anger on a stick. Nothing could stand in my way....

...and then I reached the Weight of Darkness.

No amount of charge spam is sufficient. The hordes of agile T3 kats are slaughtering me.
They can dash right past a strike mistimed by a split second and deliver a punishing bite
before I have a chance to raise my shield. And that's just when fighting ONE of them.
In swarms, I'm practically defenseless with my heavy plate shield and ash tail set. I don't
have the crowns to invest in a 4* secondary for this one mission. I need something cheap,
fast and effective.

What would you recommend I buy to increase my odds of beating this mission?
Remember, it has to be 3* at the highest.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 14:39

Ninja-Gyles

Um...

For a T3 mission you need 4* item at least to be effective.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 14:41

Bopp

why charge?

I don't understand why you're charging so much. Monsters in Tier 3 are much faster, with more dangerous AIs. Also, the Troika swords have some of the slowest charge attack rates in the game. It may be a while, before you're able to use slow sword charge attacks against kats, devilites, greavers, and other tough monsters.

Have you tried regular attacks (not charge attacks)? Against swarms of kats, regular attacks with a long, wide sword swing are pretty effective, because you hit multiple targets.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 14:49

Gent-Soopakoopa

I DO use regular swings. It's still very tricky.

And in case you don't realize, even a troika-line sword at lvl 10 with CTR:VH charges VERY quickly, and does
work quite wellon most monsters. In fact, it works for me with almost ALL monsters. Jellies, mecha
knights, retrodes, lichens, wolvers, gremlins, chromas, zombies, devilites...just not Kats.

...should I just mess around and see if I can get an attack speed increase or undead damage bonus UV?
I REALLY don't have the time or money to make a new 4*. I'm trying to beat the mission, in fact, since it's
the last one between me and the 5* HoH, and a friend agreed to help me get a Sudaruska....once I get there.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 14:48

Ninja-Gyles

Well...

I guess in your case the Freezing Vaporizer MKII would be the best in your case.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 17:28

Bopp

And in case you don't realize, even a troika-line sword at lvl 10 with CTR:VH charges VERY quickly

No, it really doesn't charge very quickly, in comparison to other swords. Here are some detailed data.

To put it another way: The Troika-style charge attack is pretty powerful. So, if it's also fast, then you should be destroying everything. But you're not. So something is wrong there.

I'm not trying to attack you. My honest opinion is that you probably just need to learn the kat AI a little better --- down to knowing exactly how far their bite attack reaches. Then you will be able to handle them. Good luck.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:57

Leekcoco

What is your reason for using

What is your reason for using 3* at the highest? A Silversix works well on Kats, just dodge and spamshoot once they stop. There is no point in counting your pennies because you'll need more than a Suda to get you through the rest of the missions anyway.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:00

Fehzor

Lol, sudaruska charge spam is actually one of the most effective things in the game imo. Regardless of what bopp tries to tell me, I find suda charges to be safe and simple to hit with, making them excellent. Perhaps I'll make a video of weight of darkness with only suda charges.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:28

Bopp

huh?

I agree that Sudaruska charges are generally effective and not especially dangerous. I have never said that they are inherently unsafe.

But when the original poster uses them on Tier-3 kats, the kats somehow evade the charge. So there is some problem in how he is using those charges. I think that he might find regular attacks easier to pull off.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:40

Misten

Don't use charge attack then.

Don't use charge attack then. Use the regulars ones.
Some small tips: Don't run away from the kats, run towards to the kats and you will be safer from bites.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:32

#10

Heavy-Dragon

No matter how you cut it

You're going to have a hard time running T3 with 3* armor, especially against some of the most hellish tracking mobs of this game.

run toward kats when they charge you. this will put you out of range of their bites and force them to use projectiles. kats must dash in a straight line before attacking, so use that to your advantage.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 23:06

#11

Etharaes

Normal weapons FTW

How about Valiance/the blaster line? You get the recipes with the missions so it's cheap, and it's normal damage type which is always nice as a side-arm for a normal type weapon. Fire two shots then pause. Simple.

~Ethanol, the laggy chaos set user.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 10:41

#12

Gent-Soopakoopa

Already beaten the mission.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 12:04

#13

Zeddy

@Bopp

Sudaruska charges at standard charge speed (about 1.2 seconds), same as most swords, guns and bombs. The only reason their charges per minute differ is time taken executing the actual charge attack. So yes, it charges very quickly.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 13:15

#14

Bopp

good point

That's a good point, that charges per minute are strongly affected by how long the charge takes to execute.

On the other hand, if you're spamming charges, then you do care about the total turn-around time, because that's what limits your DPS. And if there are projectiles flying all over the place, then you certainly care about how long the charge takes to execute, because you're unable to shield and dodge during execution.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 16:16

#15

Zeddy

Oh, I wasn't saying otherwise. I just enjoy being pedantic.

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A 3* secondary for "The Weight of Darkness"